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<blockquote data-quote="cowtrek" data-source="post: 277632" data-attributes="member: 2847"><p>Most of the disc mowers (at least the mower bars) are made by one of only a few companies. Kuhns are very good. The JD mower is the exact same mower in green paint. Kuhn also made the old NH mowers, the old gearbed types, before they switched to the shaft-between-boxes type they sell now, which is Lely if I remember right. Morra, Sitrex, Farmtrac, and about half a dozen other off brands are Italian for the most part. I can't remember who Bush-hog is made by. Vicon is a good mower from either Germany or Holland. Vermeer is a good mower, made by Lely too I believe. </p><p></p><p>I've run a 9.5 foot Kuhn behind a 5610 New Holland tractor for a neighbor and it runs like a dream. I personally run a PZ Zweegers CM 212 drum mower, bought new in 88 and only had to replace the cluster (input) gears year before last, the skid saucers, transport strips, blades, and blade holders in all that time, and I used to cut road hay in gravelly conditions and stuff, which is real hard on it. They were bought out by Vicon about 5 years ago or so. Excellent mower. </p><p></p><p>Like the guy said about buying a used disk mower, buyer beware! That's usually why used disk mowers are dirt cheap; if they had a lot of trouble free life left to them odds are the guy would've kept it himself. And repairs are major $$$ so you have to get it for a song to really come out if/when it does need major repairs. You might get lucky and get one cheap that goes a long time without repairs, but if you pay big money for it and then have to repair it too you can easily have as much money tied up in it as if you'd bought a new one, but you're still stuck with an old clunker. Be REALLY careful of the auction machines. I've seen ONE, maybe two mowers that were worth a crap at auction in the last two years. One was a brand new Pottinger (who knows who makes that, never heard of it before and the bar/turtles looked competely unlike ANY other make) that was sold at every sale for about 6 months or so, over and over again (probably rebought it looking for a sucker) and the other was a Zweegers drum mower but the dummies lifted it off the trailer by it's cylinder rod and bent it into a pretty 'U' shape. Saw one Kuhn that was ok, looked like minor repairs would get it going. Saw at least 8 various makes that were completely worn out or torn up, bearings out, bars locked up, gears turn a turn or two and lock up, etc. Be sure you can get parts for whatever you buy too. Some of these 'off brands' are here today gone tomorrow and if you can't get parts you've got a new lawn ornament. Good luck! OL JR <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cowtrek, post: 277632, member: 2847"] Most of the disc mowers (at least the mower bars) are made by one of only a few companies. Kuhns are very good. The JD mower is the exact same mower in green paint. Kuhn also made the old NH mowers, the old gearbed types, before they switched to the shaft-between-boxes type they sell now, which is Lely if I remember right. Morra, Sitrex, Farmtrac, and about half a dozen other off brands are Italian for the most part. I can't remember who Bush-hog is made by. Vicon is a good mower from either Germany or Holland. Vermeer is a good mower, made by Lely too I believe. I've run a 9.5 foot Kuhn behind a 5610 New Holland tractor for a neighbor and it runs like a dream. I personally run a PZ Zweegers CM 212 drum mower, bought new in 88 and only had to replace the cluster (input) gears year before last, the skid saucers, transport strips, blades, and blade holders in all that time, and I used to cut road hay in gravelly conditions and stuff, which is real hard on it. They were bought out by Vicon about 5 years ago or so. Excellent mower. Like the guy said about buying a used disk mower, buyer beware! That's usually why used disk mowers are dirt cheap; if they had a lot of trouble free life left to them odds are the guy would've kept it himself. And repairs are major $$$ so you have to get it for a song to really come out if/when it does need major repairs. You might get lucky and get one cheap that goes a long time without repairs, but if you pay big money for it and then have to repair it too you can easily have as much money tied up in it as if you'd bought a new one, but you're still stuck with an old clunker. Be REALLY careful of the auction machines. I've seen ONE, maybe two mowers that were worth a crap at auction in the last two years. One was a brand new Pottinger (who knows who makes that, never heard of it before and the bar/turtles looked competely unlike ANY other make) that was sold at every sale for about 6 months or so, over and over again (probably rebought it looking for a sucker) and the other was a Zweegers drum mower but the dummies lifted it off the trailer by it's cylinder rod and bent it into a pretty 'U' shape. Saw one Kuhn that was ok, looked like minor repairs would get it going. Saw at least 8 various makes that were completely worn out or torn up, bearings out, bars locked up, gears turn a turn or two and lock up, etc. Be sure you can get parts for whatever you buy too. Some of these 'off brands' are here today gone tomorrow and if you can't get parts you've got a new lawn ornament. Good luck! OL JR :) [/QUOTE]
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