Diesel versus Mineral Oil?

[boondocks]

[I posted this buried in another thread which went silent. Hope it will find some kind soul here]:

Anyone notice a difference between mixing permethrin with mineral oil versus diesel? We had always used diesel but they really run away like it burns. Makes it really hard to spray them all, unless we are working them. So we tried mixing it with mineral oil a few days ago. On the one hand, the cows don't seem to mind it as much. On the other hand, the flies don't seem to mind it as much. :lol: In fact, some of the horn flies (despite a direct hit) just stayed on their sides like it was sugar water. And the treatment definitely didn't last very long--flies were back to heavy within a few days (no rain involved).

Does light min oil work as well as diesel? Anyone else notice the cows "preferring" one over the other? Time to switch from permethrin? (We have used it the last few summers).

Thanks for any help!

 

[TCRanch]

We used to use diesel and never had good results so switched to a ready-to-use insecticide. More expensive but it definitely works, generally around 2 weeks during heavy fly season but up to a month in the spring/fall.

 

[dun]

We have always used diesel in the fly wipes. Mineral oil when you use 4-5 gallons a week would be prohibitive. Now the disclaimer: We had a ca;f born a couple of weeks ago and to insure she didn;t get fly strike we sprayed her butt and navel with screw worm spray in an aerosol can. After the first day, when she would here that phsst sound she was gone like a rocket. So I put some of the fly wipe stuff in a squirt can hand squirted her with it. Worked great, no fly issues. BUT, she lost her hair in the places she got sprayed. I'm assuming the diesel was to caustic on her day old hide. Hair is growing back fine, but I learned a lesson there.

 

[Texas PaPaw]

Can also use cooking oil. $5-6/gallon at walmart. Works well as carrier for several insecticides. Can use hose fed syringe without needle to squirt it on instead of pouring on. If done correctly, can be considerably cheaper than premixed pour ons. Just read label on premix and see what % active ingredient, then buy more concentrated active and dilute with veg cooking oil to get same % active in mixture. Can also use pump up sprayer to spray on but prefer the syringe.

The veg oil doesn't seem to irritate/burn skin like diesel can.

 

[1982vett]

Permethrin insecticide to spray on cattle.....water
I use Lin-tox and diesel on cattle rubs. http://www.jefferspet.com/products/prol ... aQod9M4Knw

Link to the Permethrin label... https://www.drugs.com/vet/permethrin-10.html

(from the label)
TREATMENT OF ANIMALS AND ANIMAL QUARTERS:

PESTS

DILUTIONS (mix well)

HOW TO APPLY

PESTS ON LARGE ANIMALS
(Dairy or Beef Cattle, Horses, Sheep and Goats)

Horn Flies, Face Flies, Stable Flies, Mosquitoes, Lice, Mites, Ticks (including deer tick which may carry Lyme disease)

For severe infestations, dilute 1.28 oz per gallon of water (1 part concentrate to 99 parts water) (0.1%).

For normal infestations, dilute 0.64 oz per gallon of water (1 part concentrate to 199 parts water) (0.05%).

Spray thoroughly to cover the entire animal. For lice or Mites, a second treatment is recommended in 14-21 days. Spray lactating dairy cows only after milking is completed.

Horn Flies, Face Flies, Stable Flies, Ear Ticks

Dilute 2 oz per gallon of water (.16%).

Spot Treatment - Low Pressure Spray - Apply 1/2 oz per ear or 1-4 oz on face or 12-16 oz along the backline.

Horn Flies, Face Flies, Horseflies, Ear Ticks

Dilute 8 oz in 5 gal oil (0.125%).

BACKRUBBER - Keep backrubber charged. Results can be improved by forced use.

PESTS ON FARM PREMISES (Barns, Dairies, Loafing Sheds, Milking Parlors, Feedlots, Stables, Paddocks, Poultry & Livestock Housing)

Horseflies, Stable Flies, Lesser Houseflies and other manure breeding flies, Fleas, Lice, Mites, Ticks (including deer tick which may carry Lyme disease). Aids in control of Cockroaches, Mosquitoes and Spiders

Dilute 3.2 oz per gallon of water (0.25%).

Spray walls and surfaces thoroughly, but do not let runoff occur. Spray about 1 gallon per 750-1000 sq. ft. Treat no more often than once every 2 weeks. Do not contaminate animal's feed or water by spray. Do not use in milk rooms.

PESTS IN CATTLE BARNS, HORSE BARNS, SWINE HOUSES, KENNELS, MILKING PARLORS, MILK ROOMS, DAIRIES, POULTRY HOUSES, FEEDLOTS, STABLES AND PADDOCKS

Flies, Mosquitoes and Gnats

For initial clean out of severe insect infestation, dilute at a rate of 6.4 oz per gallon of water (1 part concentrate to19 parts water) (0.50%).

For normal infestations, dilute at a rate of 3.2 oz per gallon of water (1 part concentrate to 39 parts water) (0.25%).

FINE MIST - Apply directing the spray toward the ceiling and upper corners until the area is filled with mist. Use about 1 ounce per 1,000 cubic feet of space. For best results, close doors and windows before spraying and keep closed for ten to fifteen minutes. Vacate the treated area and ventilate before reoccupying.

PESTS ON SWINE AND POULTRY
(Do not ship swine for slaughter within 5 days of last treatment)

Mange Mites

Dilute 1.28 oz per gallon of water (1 part concentrate to 99 parts water) (0.10%)

Spray, dip or sponge animals. Retreat after 14 days, spraying walls and floor space and bedding to kill late hatching, developing stages.

Blowflies, Flies, Mosquitoes, Hog Lice, Fleas, Ticks (including deer tick which may carry Lyme disease)

Dilute 1.28 oz per gallon of water (1 part concentrate to 99 parts water) (0.10%)

Spray, dip or sponge to apply 1 pint per pig, especially around ears.

Poultry Mites, Northern Fowl Mites and Lice

Dilute 1.28 oz per gallon of water (1 part concentrate to 99 parts water) (0.10%)

Spray at the rate of 1 gal per 100 birds, with a fine mist. Spray roosts, walls and nests or cages.

 

[cattle60]

Thanks for the info, Always have a problem where some don't want anything to do with the rubs.

 

[1982vett]

Thanks for the info, Always have a problem where some don't want anything to do with the rubs.

keep them out. Sooner or later they will catch on.

 

[dun]

Thanks for the info, Always have a problem where some don't want anything to do with the rubs.

We have fly wipes set up so they have to go through them to get to water.

 

[cattle60]

Have across opening between fields. Some would just stay, acted like it was a gate. Trying some small ones hanging from mineral feeder, still not all eat the mineral.

 

[cattle60]

Ponds and drainage in both sides.

 

[dun]

This is what we use, holds about 4 gallons

 

[Anonymous]

i have used old motor oil in rubs
water for spray mix (touch) dish soap too much you will foam up !