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<blockquote data-quote="DiamondSCattleCo" data-source="post: 156877" data-attributes="member: 2862"><p>I was just talking real world with the V10 vs Cummins numbers I laid down for you. Those are stock numbers from showroom floor trucks.</p><p></p><p>My feelings are that, while the initial outlay of cash for the diesel is higher, in the long run you are not paying more for the diesel, but less. On trade in, the diesel will be worth more than the gas engine, sometimes by a LONG way. Somewhere back in this thread, I quoted some resale numbers. These weren't theoretical numbers. I've been all over the US. I've never seen an area where a gas engine, whether it be V8 or V10, will outsell a diesel engine.</p><p></p><p>Not planning on trading or selling anytime soon? Your overall investment is still less, as that diesel engine, properly maintained, will outlast the gas engine. I know hotshotters with over 1 million miles on their Cummins trucks and haven't rebuilt the engine yet. Sure, there are some very high mileage gas engines kicking around, but there are wayyyyyy fewer of them. As a general rule of thumb, you can expect twice the life expectancy from a diesel. And the diesel is less expensive to rebuild than the new breed gas engines.</p><p></p><p>You're right, with the added cost of diesel these days, the improved mileage of the diesel doesn't do much, although in my area, diesel isn't that much higher in price (couple cents a litre), so I'm still saving money.</p><p></p><p>My feelings are that you get better value for your dollar with the diesel: Better acceleration, better resale, better utility, better for the enviroment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps you may have asked that further back in the thread, but just a couple messages ago you stated that you were unconvinced that the higher torque diesel was better or stronger than the higher horsepower gas engine.</p><p></p><p>Better may be in the eye of the beholder, but the numbers prove stronger.</p><p></p><p>Rod</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DiamondSCattleCo, post: 156877, member: 2862"] I was just talking real world with the V10 vs Cummins numbers I laid down for you. Those are stock numbers from showroom floor trucks. My feelings are that, while the initial outlay of cash for the diesel is higher, in the long run you are not paying more for the diesel, but less. On trade in, the diesel will be worth more than the gas engine, sometimes by a LONG way. Somewhere back in this thread, I quoted some resale numbers. These weren't theoretical numbers. I've been all over the US. I've never seen an area where a gas engine, whether it be V8 or V10, will outsell a diesel engine. Not planning on trading or selling anytime soon? Your overall investment is still less, as that diesel engine, properly maintained, will outlast the gas engine. I know hotshotters with over 1 million miles on their Cummins trucks and haven't rebuilt the engine yet. Sure, there are some very high mileage gas engines kicking around, but there are wayyyyyy fewer of them. As a general rule of thumb, you can expect twice the life expectancy from a diesel. And the diesel is less expensive to rebuild than the new breed gas engines. You're right, with the added cost of diesel these days, the improved mileage of the diesel doesn't do much, although in my area, diesel isn't that much higher in price (couple cents a litre), so I'm still saving money. My feelings are that you get better value for your dollar with the diesel: Better acceleration, better resale, better utility, better for the enviroment. Perhaps you may have asked that further back in the thread, but just a couple messages ago you stated that you were unconvinced that the higher torque diesel was better or stronger than the higher horsepower gas engine. Better may be in the eye of the beholder, but the numbers prove stronger. Rod [/QUOTE]
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