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<blockquote data-quote="H and H" data-source="post: 1066249" data-attributes="member: 18837"><p>TNG - I am going to differ with the rest of the crowd here, you seem to be educated in the large animal "registered" breeding business and seem open to some level of risk. If you do your homework, the risk can be minimized. Health risks can be assessed via blood testing for: Johne's, anamplasmosis and leukosis. I recommend having all potential recips tested to ensure that the ensuing calf can be sold as breeding stock. Once the recip is of breeding age, the vet can check out the reproductive tract of the heifer to ensure suitability (pelvic area, ovarian cysts, etc.). The risk with your scenario is that you will spend 9-15 months developing a bucket calf, only to find out she is not a suitable recip. You may be better off buying Bangs Vaccinated breeding stock from a reputable local breeder, this animal will be closer to breeding age and you can get all the blood work done before you bring her/them home. That being said - you are going to increase the cost of your recip 5-10x. </p><p></p><p>Regarding my previous post:</p><p></p><p>1) My recommendation for the dairy recip was solely based on her ability to milk and handle multiple calves (i.e. nurse cows). If you were starting with Jersey crosses, they are typically smaller than purebred 'steins so the whole feed efficiency argument isn't really relevant</p><p></p><p>2) Since you are wanting to sell breeding stock waygu - implanting multiple embryos (unless they are sexed) per dairy recip is out - due to the risk of free martins. </p><p></p><p>Depending on your level of experience, having a certified embryologist "set up", heat detect, and implant your embryos is not that big of deal. In fact, most of them will sell you a recip, confirmed bred, with your embryo for a fee. Last year, our vet would sell us a confirmed pregnant recip for $1900. It is all a matter of how much you want to do on your own and what you are willing to pay. </p><p></p><p>If you are "one and done" with the recips, then beef heifers may be the way to go. You can breed her back after she calves and make a tidy sum by selling a second calf "heifer" after she weans the waygu calf. </p><p></p><p>Maybe I am willing to take more risk than most, but if you are confident in the market and your business model shows a profit - go all in. There isn't much difference in delivering a high end embryo and a commercial beef calf. It's simply a matter of risk tolerance if things go south. </p><p></p><p>If you don't mind me asking, how much are you spending on the embryos and what age are you planning on selling the waygu?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="H and H, post: 1066249, member: 18837"] TNG - I am going to differ with the rest of the crowd here, you seem to be educated in the large animal "registered" breeding business and seem open to some level of risk. If you do your homework, the risk can be minimized. Health risks can be assessed via blood testing for: Johne's, anamplasmosis and leukosis. I recommend having all potential recips tested to ensure that the ensuing calf can be sold as breeding stock. Once the recip is of breeding age, the vet can check out the reproductive tract of the heifer to ensure suitability (pelvic area, ovarian cysts, etc.). The risk with your scenario is that you will spend 9-15 months developing a bucket calf, only to find out she is not a suitable recip. You may be better off buying Bangs Vaccinated breeding stock from a reputable local breeder, this animal will be closer to breeding age and you can get all the blood work done before you bring her/them home. That being said - you are going to increase the cost of your recip 5-10x. Regarding my previous post: 1) My recommendation for the dairy recip was solely based on her ability to milk and handle multiple calves (i.e. nurse cows). If you were starting with Jersey crosses, they are typically smaller than purebred 'steins so the whole feed efficiency argument isn't really relevant 2) Since you are wanting to sell breeding stock waygu - implanting multiple embryos (unless they are sexed) per dairy recip is out - due to the risk of free martins. Depending on your level of experience, having a certified embryologist "set up", heat detect, and implant your embryos is not that big of deal. In fact, most of them will sell you a recip, confirmed bred, with your embryo for a fee. Last year, our vet would sell us a confirmed pregnant recip for $1900. It is all a matter of how much you want to do on your own and what you are willing to pay. If you are "one and done" with the recips, then beef heifers may be the way to go. You can breed her back after she calves and make a tidy sum by selling a second calf "heifer" after she weans the waygu calf. Maybe I am willing to take more risk than most, but if you are confident in the market and your business model shows a profit - go all in. There isn't much difference in delivering a high end embryo and a commercial beef calf. It's simply a matter of risk tolerance if things go south. If you don't mind me asking, how much are you spending on the embryos and what age are you planning on selling the waygu? [/QUOTE]
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