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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1623618" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>The 2 he bought back this year were 2 that he liked before. Both out of his own cows. I didn't have any I was really interested in out of my own cows so didn't bother to ask. I was tied up with all this ankle replacement stuff so it just wasn't a priority. Plus, with the low cost of buying some breds and c/cf pairs, I really wasn't interested in waiting the "2 years" (to get any of mine back) to get a calf. I was looking more at some turnover money this past year. Realize that I often don't buy more than a half a dozen, or a dozen, in any one year, really just dabble in it, but I watch alot of the sales. Of the 5-6 he sent this year that he wants to see before the guy sells, part of it was also because we have lost 2 good pastures where we have kept cattle and are having to change some things around and really don't have a good place to keep heifers now. Used to have a place where we could run 15+ with next to no worries about them getting bred by mistake, no grazing animals close, good fences and water to keep them in, and hilly terrain so they really got out and grew and developed their bodies. </p><p></p><p>Since we have fed corn silage this past winter, the feeders looked better than the ones we only fed grain and hay too. But I am just not a fan of alot of corn silage on younger animals because I see more "fat" than "growth" of body and muscle. The exercise is another thing that we are losing in these young animals. It does help the ones with dairy in them in a more positive way because they don't put it on as much condition, as growth, it seems to me. Then they are better shape when they go out to grass as old yearlings, and they are in better shape for breeding I think. Plus, I start looking at all the time and work that goes into feeding all this silage, and I am just not so sure it is worth it all. It keeps adding to the "input" side and takes that much longer for the "output" side to pay it back?</p><p>They do go through the cold alot better with more condition on them. I would rather feed that corn silage to the fall calving cows because they can keep their condition, make a little more milk for their calves, and breed back better. I'd rather we make more "haylage" too as the input costs are less, and it is often easier on the land too. But last year and this coming year, the corn is part of a deal with renovating a hayfield. I just told my son that I think that we need to put most of this years' corn into bags for us, and not trade as much off. We have already "prepaid" for this years planting to the guy that got the corn for silage last fall, because of what he owed us, so then all we will be out is the bag and the harvest costs this year. We'll see...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1623618, member: 25884"] The 2 he bought back this year were 2 that he liked before. Both out of his own cows. I didn't have any I was really interested in out of my own cows so didn't bother to ask. I was tied up with all this ankle replacement stuff so it just wasn't a priority. Plus, with the low cost of buying some breds and c/cf pairs, I really wasn't interested in waiting the "2 years" (to get any of mine back) to get a calf. I was looking more at some turnover money this past year. Realize that I often don't buy more than a half a dozen, or a dozen, in any one year, really just dabble in it, but I watch alot of the sales. Of the 5-6 he sent this year that he wants to see before the guy sells, part of it was also because we have lost 2 good pastures where we have kept cattle and are having to change some things around and really don't have a good place to keep heifers now. Used to have a place where we could run 15+ with next to no worries about them getting bred by mistake, no grazing animals close, good fences and water to keep them in, and hilly terrain so they really got out and grew and developed their bodies. Since we have fed corn silage this past winter, the feeders looked better than the ones we only fed grain and hay too. But I am just not a fan of alot of corn silage on younger animals because I see more "fat" than "growth" of body and muscle. The exercise is another thing that we are losing in these young animals. It does help the ones with dairy in them in a more positive way because they don't put it on as much condition, as growth, it seems to me. Then they are better shape when they go out to grass as old yearlings, and they are in better shape for breeding I think. Plus, I start looking at all the time and work that goes into feeding all this silage, and I am just not so sure it is worth it all. It keeps adding to the "input" side and takes that much longer for the "output" side to pay it back? They do go through the cold alot better with more condition on them. I would rather feed that corn silage to the fall calving cows because they can keep their condition, make a little more milk for their calves, and breed back better. I'd rather we make more "haylage" too as the input costs are less, and it is often easier on the land too. But last year and this coming year, the corn is part of a deal with renovating a hayfield. I just told my son that I think that we need to put most of this years' corn into bags for us, and not trade as much off. We have already "prepaid" for this years planting to the guy that got the corn for silage last fall, because of what he owed us, so then all we will be out is the bag and the harvest costs this year. We'll see... [/QUOTE]
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