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<blockquote data-quote="Nesikep" data-source="post: 1215432" data-attributes="member: 9096"><p>I have kept a couple that you'd have gotten rid of first strike... Perhaps some of the reasons were our management at the time (Lack of minerals). Tizia was one such case, she had an amazing heifer for her first try (I think she was close to 700 lbs at weaning), but didn't breed back, we decided to keep her, and she was hit and miss for breeding back, she would be early, then catch up fine, then get late again.. That's when I did a blood test on her for minerals and found out the root cause. Mega is her daughter an has conceived first time every time.</p><p>Then I have Prada, who was a first timer this year, Last year at breeding, I saw her bred, then everything was quiet and in the fall she was in heat again.. I think she may have slipped the calf at some point. She ended up raising a nice calf and breeding back 6 weeks later with no troubles, so as long as she really works hard, I'll see what she can do, but I won't tolerate any repetitions on this.</p><p>I have one heifer that raised a dink last year.. I had her with some yearlings and I think they were nursing her before she calved and it all went to heck in a handbasket for her.. Again, no repetitions of that, this calf better be at least respectable.</p><p>I've kept a couple for longer than I normally would with vaginal prolapses.. I am gambling on 1 more year for the second time.. without question I don't keep offspring, and they're gone this fall.. I had the space to keep them so I did, that's changed now.</p><p>We have culled very hard for udders and feet, and we don't have much of anything troublesome left.. </p><p>Attitude... Snooty cows are gone pretty quick... If they really never need help at calving and are protective for a day or two I don't mind too much.. I'm going to be on my toes anyhow, but longer than that gets shipped... One exception has been an old cow with a big droopy udder.. She's mean as a witch at calving time, and has a bag so low the calf can't find it.. So down the chute she goes, gets milked out once, the calf gets hooked on, and she's usually OK after that.. We've kept 3 heifers from her and they've all been very good. I also have an excellent cow that tests the fences, but she's phenotypically one I can say I want a lot more of... Hoping to get a couple more daughters from her... she's 11 and isn't smartening up</p><p></p><p>I don't usually cull on age... something else has to give. Some cows just don't ever make something worth keeping as a replacement, but are troublefree terminal calf machines.. I keep them until I have something better coming along. </p><p>It's taken a lot of culling to get to where we are, and there's certainly more to do going forward... With what we started off with if we culled everything we didn't like we wouldn't have had anything left... We had lots of troublemakers.. the kind that always duck out of the herd before the gate, then go through the fence to get back with them, mean ones, fence busters, and all the physical problems on top of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nesikep, post: 1215432, member: 9096"] I have kept a couple that you'd have gotten rid of first strike... Perhaps some of the reasons were our management at the time (Lack of minerals). Tizia was one such case, she had an amazing heifer for her first try (I think she was close to 700 lbs at weaning), but didn't breed back, we decided to keep her, and she was hit and miss for breeding back, she would be early, then catch up fine, then get late again.. That's when I did a blood test on her for minerals and found out the root cause. Mega is her daughter an has conceived first time every time. Then I have Prada, who was a first timer this year, Last year at breeding, I saw her bred, then everything was quiet and in the fall she was in heat again.. I think she may have slipped the calf at some point. She ended up raising a nice calf and breeding back 6 weeks later with no troubles, so as long as she really works hard, I'll see what she can do, but I won't tolerate any repetitions on this. I have one heifer that raised a dink last year.. I had her with some yearlings and I think they were nursing her before she calved and it all went to heck in a handbasket for her.. Again, no repetitions of that, this calf better be at least respectable. I've kept a couple for longer than I normally would with vaginal prolapses.. I am gambling on 1 more year for the second time.. without question I don't keep offspring, and they're gone this fall.. I had the space to keep them so I did, that's changed now. We have culled very hard for udders and feet, and we don't have much of anything troublesome left.. Attitude... Snooty cows are gone pretty quick... If they really never need help at calving and are protective for a day or two I don't mind too much.. I'm going to be on my toes anyhow, but longer than that gets shipped... One exception has been an old cow with a big droopy udder.. She's mean as a witch at calving time, and has a bag so low the calf can't find it.. So down the chute she goes, gets milked out once, the calf gets hooked on, and she's usually OK after that.. We've kept 3 heifers from her and they've all been very good. I also have an excellent cow that tests the fences, but she's phenotypically one I can say I want a lot more of... Hoping to get a couple more daughters from her... she's 11 and isn't smartening up I don't usually cull on age... something else has to give. Some cows just don't ever make something worth keeping as a replacement, but are troublefree terminal calf machines.. I keep them until I have something better coming along. It's taken a lot of culling to get to where we are, and there's certainly more to do going forward... With what we started off with if we culled everything we didn't like we wouldn't have had anything left... We had lots of troublemakers.. the kind that always duck out of the herd before the gate, then go through the fence to get back with them, mean ones, fence busters, and all the physical problems on top of it. [/QUOTE]
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