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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1725304" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>A cross bred bull...1/2 one breed and 1/2 another breed, will randomly sire 1/2 his calves of one breed, and 1/2 another. If a bull has a gazillion sperm, half a gazillion sperm will be Charolais..in the instance of the OP's case...and 1/2 a gazillion will be Highland sperm. Another way to look at it....fill a swimming pool with red marbles. This represents the eggs of the red angus cows. Fill another pool with half white marbles( Charolais) and 1,/2 brown marbles ( Highland). With eyes closed reach in the 1st pool and pull out a marble.. place it in a jar. This is the red angus cow's egg. With eyes closed, reach in the other pool, and pull out a marble. It will be either white or brown. Put that marble in the jar, The jars represent the makeup of the calves. Do it again. The next marble you pull out of the 2nd pool might be white, or it might be brown. You may pull out 10 white ones in a row, or 20 brown ones in a row. Pulling out 40 marbles from the 2nd pool will not necessarily give you 20 white and 20 brown. It could, but it also could not. This is what happens when you use a cross bred bull.</p><p></p><p>Brangus is registered breed of its own. Brangus cattle have Brangus DNA. A half Angus and half Brahma is NOT a Brangus. Great Danes were developed by crossing Irish Wolf hounds with Bull Mastiffs. A dog that is half Irish Wolfhound and 1./2 Mastiff, is NOT a Great Dane. Breed a Great Dane to a Doberman, and you will get half GD and half Doberman pups. Breed that half Irish Wolfhound/ 1/2 Mastiff dog to a Doberman bitch, and the pups could all be Irish wolf hound x Dober... or all Mastif x Dober, or some of each. None will be Great Dane x Doberman.</p><p></p><p>Composite breeds like some people call Brangus, Gert etc, are not 1/2 Brahman and 1/2 Angus or shorthorn. Nor can you develope a new, composite breed that way. If you wanted to create,. say,. a Black Baldy BREED, you could not take half Angus/Half Hereford bulls and breed them, to half angus. half hereford cows. 25% of the offspring would be angus, 25% would be Herefords, and 50% would be black baldies. To create a black Baldy Breed, you'd breed black baldies to an angus, and breed black baldies to a hereford. You'd then take the 3/4 angus/1/4herefords and breed them to the 3/4 Herford/1/4 angus. Those calves would have 50% Angus and 50% hereford dna , and their eggs and sperm would be too, but they would all be black baldies. 50% angus dna and 50% hereford dna is not the same as a 1/2 Angus/1/2 Hereford cross. </p><p></p><p>I would never leave a grade stallion intact, nor a cross breed bull intact. myself. </p><p></p><p>Best cross of Bos indicus cattle to produce maximum heteratopsis, is Angus x Herford. If I were the OP., I'd use a Hereford bull. Or given his location, I'd probaly use a Braford bull. and I mean a Braford, not an F1 Brahma x Hereford.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1725304, member: 40587"] A cross bred bull...1/2 one breed and 1/2 another breed, will randomly sire 1/2 his calves of one breed, and 1/2 another. If a bull has a gazillion sperm, half a gazillion sperm will be Charolais..in the instance of the OP's case...and 1/2 a gazillion will be Highland sperm. Another way to look at it....fill a swimming pool with red marbles. This represents the eggs of the red angus cows. Fill another pool with half white marbles( Charolais) and 1,/2 brown marbles ( Highland). With eyes closed reach in the 1st pool and pull out a marble.. place it in a jar. This is the red angus cow's egg. With eyes closed, reach in the other pool, and pull out a marble. It will be either white or brown. Put that marble in the jar, The jars represent the makeup of the calves. Do it again. The next marble you pull out of the 2nd pool might be white, or it might be brown. You may pull out 10 white ones in a row, or 20 brown ones in a row. Pulling out 40 marbles from the 2nd pool will not necessarily give you 20 white and 20 brown. It could, but it also could not. This is what happens when you use a cross bred bull. Brangus is registered breed of its own. Brangus cattle have Brangus DNA. A half Angus and half Brahma is NOT a Brangus. Great Danes were developed by crossing Irish Wolf hounds with Bull Mastiffs. A dog that is half Irish Wolfhound and 1./2 Mastiff, is NOT a Great Dane. Breed a Great Dane to a Doberman, and you will get half GD and half Doberman pups. Breed that half Irish Wolfhound/ 1/2 Mastiff dog to a Doberman bitch, and the pups could all be Irish wolf hound x Dober... or all Mastif x Dober, or some of each. None will be Great Dane x Doberman. Composite breeds like some people call Brangus, Gert etc, are not 1/2 Brahman and 1/2 Angus or shorthorn. Nor can you develope a new, composite breed that way. If you wanted to create,. say,. a Black Baldy BREED, you could not take half Angus/Half Hereford bulls and breed them, to half angus. half hereford cows. 25% of the offspring would be angus, 25% would be Herefords, and 50% would be black baldies. To create a black Baldy Breed, you'd breed black baldies to an angus, and breed black baldies to a hereford. You'd then take the 3/4 angus/1/4herefords and breed them to the 3/4 Herford/1/4 angus. Those calves would have 50% Angus and 50% hereford dna , and their eggs and sperm would be too, but they would all be black baldies. 50% angus dna and 50% hereford dna is not the same as a 1/2 Angus/1/2 Hereford cross. I would never leave a grade stallion intact, nor a cross breed bull intact. myself. Best cross of Bos indicus cattle to produce maximum heteratopsis, is Angus x Herford. If I were the OP., I'd use a Hereford bull. Or given his location, I'd probaly use a Braford bull. and I mean a Braford, not an F1 Brahma x Hereford. [/QUOTE]
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