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cowdogs - what to look for?
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<blockquote data-quote="Howdyjabo" data-source="post: 746624" data-attributes="member: 391"><p>"but their instict is to go to balance and gather."</p><p></p><p>I think thats what messes people up with Border Collies- you have to harness the going to balance and gathering(with most) before you can do other things with them. And you have to realize their default is always going to be going to the head(on a good one)- so if you want something different you have to negotiate for it at first. And they are sensitive and fast learners- you can teach them the wrong lesson accidentally as fast and as thoroughly as a good lesson on purpose.</p><p>I rarely use mine during work for single long gathers - I do short off to the side half gathers and alot of driving. If I started a dog trying to do what I do with my older dogs it would just frustrate them and me.</p><p>Once you understand how and why a Border Collies brain(instincts) works they are pretty easy to manipulate.</p><p></p><p>If you do think of getting a Border Collie get one from cattledog lines- there are some sheepdogs that will make a good cattledog but they are getting harder and harder to find (at least on the East Coast)</p><p></p><p>There are getting to be some really good Kelpie lines around- I am curious about them and if farmers could make use of them easier(not as much heading fanaticism to deal with- but enough to get the work done).</p><p>Might not have the potential to be a Cadillac, but farmers need trucks more anyhow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Howdyjabo, post: 746624, member: 391"] "but their instict is to go to balance and gather." I think thats what messes people up with Border Collies- you have to harness the going to balance and gathering(with most) before you can do other things with them. And you have to realize their default is always going to be going to the head(on a good one)- so if you want something different you have to negotiate for it at first. And they are sensitive and fast learners- you can teach them the wrong lesson accidentally as fast and as thoroughly as a good lesson on purpose. I rarely use mine during work for single long gathers - I do short off to the side half gathers and alot of driving. If I started a dog trying to do what I do with my older dogs it would just frustrate them and me. Once you understand how and why a Border Collies brain(instincts) works they are pretty easy to manipulate. If you do think of getting a Border Collie get one from cattledog lines- there are some sheepdogs that will make a good cattledog but they are getting harder and harder to find (at least on the East Coast) There are getting to be some really good Kelpie lines around- I am curious about them and if farmers could make use of them easier(not as much heading fanaticism to deal with- but enough to get the work done). Might not have the potential to be a Cadillac, but farmers need trucks more anyhow. [/QUOTE]
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