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<blockquote data-quote="alacattleman" data-source="post: 667384" data-attributes="member: 3696"><p><em>That is my simple but important point. There is no way anyone can tell. Any healthy animal culled can be the wrong animal to cull. This means most other associated calcuating techniques, such as cow size, cow weight, calf weaning weight, weaning weight percentage, cow frame size, etc. are all useless and a waste of time. I agree with your other statement about fertility because you can measure it precisely and can compare and can make major decisions beyond a shadow of a doubt.</em></p></blockquote><p></p><p>I disagree with you on this. If you cull for a certain trait the average will be skewed in the direction that you are pushing. Measuring the exact intake of each cow is impractical and unnecessary cause you know your inputs. So in other words, if the culling has resulted in a higher average calf weight and higher live birth rate with the same grass then the culling had a positive effect on my bottom line.</p><p></p><p>Changing the subject some but I still say you can judge the amount of intake by the size of the cow pies especially the ones that occur after their lounge. Can this be measured to the exact ounce. Probably not. But I think anyone who argues this point has never watched yearlings closely or for that matter never changed a baby's diaper. On the latter, most will agree what goes in is going to come out and its all so cute up until the baby gets a little size on it then its a different story. (do I hear an amen from the ladies) ;-) :lol2:[/quote]</p><p></p><p><em>Disagreeing is healthy. I have a patent on disposable cow diapers. Measure the weight of the diaper and spray em off with a water hose. Next?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><u><u>Believe this or not, I have been obsessessed with figuring out how to automatically weigh cow poop. </u></u></em>[/quote] i believe you</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="alacattleman, post: 667384, member: 3696"] [i]That is my simple but important point. There is no way anyone can tell. Any healthy animal culled can be the wrong animal to cull. This means most other associated calcuating techniques, such as cow size, cow weight, calf weaning weight, weaning weight percentage, cow frame size, etc. are all useless and a waste of time. I agree with your other statement about fertility because you can measure it precisely and can compare and can make major decisions beyond a shadow of a doubt.[/i][/quote] I disagree with you on this. If you cull for a certain trait the average will be skewed in the direction that you are pushing. Measuring the exact intake of each cow is impractical and unnecessary cause you know your inputs. So in other words, if the culling has resulted in a higher average calf weight and higher live birth rate with the same grass then the culling had a positive effect on my bottom line. Changing the subject some but I still say you can judge the amount of intake by the size of the cow pies especially the ones that occur after their lounge. Can this be measured to the exact ounce. Probably not. But I think anyone who argues this point has never watched yearlings closely or for that matter never changed a baby's diaper. On the latter, most will agree what goes in is going to come out and its all so cute up until the baby gets a little size on it then its a different story. (do I hear an amen from the ladies) ;-) :lol2:[/quote] [i]Disagreeing is healthy. I have a patent on disposable cow diapers. Measure the weight of the diaper and spray em off with a water hose. Next? [u][u]Believe this or not, I have been obsessessed with figuring out how to automatically weigh cow poop. [/u][/u][/i][/quote] i believe you [/QUOTE]
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