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Cow Frame Size, interseeded clover year 2 and some pictures
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<blockquote data-quote="edrsimms" data-source="post: 674999" data-attributes="member: 10970"><p>"Typically the traditional English based breeds are a smaller type animal and the continentals are larger, but with todays type cattle, the continentals have come down in size and the English have gone up. You can find smaller framed good cattle in most breeds, especially Angus (red or black) and Hereford. To me as long as the cow is deep bodied and easy keeping, and carry good muscle, it shouldn't matter what they weigh".</p><p></p><p>I think you are right on track with the frame score issue. There are some posts up here that are just incorrect like the one above. It does matter what they weigh, because the larger the cow the more hay, grass and everything they eat. </p><p>Example: Hay consumption from Oct to March 100 cows</p><p>1200 lb cow moderate milking ability frame score 5-6 vs a 1500 lb cow moderate milking ability frame 6+</p><p></p><p>1200 lb cow x 3% = 36 lbs </p><p>36 x 30 x 6 = 6480 lbs x 100 cows = 648,000 or 324T </p><p>At $100 / ton this is $32,400 </p><p>1200 lb cow avg WW = 600 lbs </p><p>600 x 0.96 = $576.00 </p><p></p><p>vs a 1500 lb cow moderate milking ability frame 6+</p><p>1500 lb cow x 3% = 45 lbs</p><p>45 x 30 x 6 = 8100 lbs x 100 cows = 810,000 or 405T</p><p>At $100/ton this is $40,500</p><p>1500 lb cow avg WW = 650 lbs</p><p>650 x 0.86 = $559.00</p><p></p><p>The weight of that broodcow does matter because just on hay consumption alone that heavier cow is the big loser. Hay was used as an example because for most operation winter feed is the largest cost. This shows an 8000 dollar savings by just owning cows wwith smaller frame scores</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="edrsimms, post: 674999, member: 10970"] "Typically the traditional English based breeds are a smaller type animal and the continentals are larger, but with todays type cattle, the continentals have come down in size and the English have gone up. You can find smaller framed good cattle in most breeds, especially Angus (red or black) and Hereford. To me as long as the cow is deep bodied and easy keeping, and carry good muscle, it shouldn't matter what they weigh". I think you are right on track with the frame score issue. There are some posts up here that are just incorrect like the one above. It does matter what they weigh, because the larger the cow the more hay, grass and everything they eat. Example: Hay consumption from Oct to March 100 cows 1200 lb cow moderate milking ability frame score 5-6 vs a 1500 lb cow moderate milking ability frame 6+ 1200 lb cow x 3% = 36 lbs 36 x 30 x 6 = 6480 lbs x 100 cows = 648,000 or 324T At $100 / ton this is $32,400 1200 lb cow avg WW = 600 lbs 600 x 0.96 = $576.00 vs a 1500 lb cow moderate milking ability frame 6+ 1500 lb cow x 3% = 45 lbs 45 x 30 x 6 = 8100 lbs x 100 cows = 810,000 or 405T At $100/ton this is $40,500 1500 lb cow avg WW = 650 lbs 650 x 0.86 = $559.00 The weight of that broodcow does matter because just on hay consumption alone that heavier cow is the big loser. Hay was used as an example because for most operation winter feed is the largest cost. This shows an 8000 dollar savings by just owning cows wwith smaller frame scores [/QUOTE]
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