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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm22" data-source="post: 692158" data-attributes="member: 7645"><p>I have two sibs in a pen that don't like people AT ALL. I have had them all their lives. They hated to be handled as pups. The little guys would scream and scream if you held them. I broke them from biting and snapping but they grew increasingly difficult too catch. They will follow me around but getting my hands on either one of them is impossible and the female will bark and growl AT ME if I face her. Both will come for food; but not within six foot. At one point they got loose and were ranging over about 200 acres. I finally got them back in a pen. If I were more motivated I would try chaining the both of them up to try to break them. I did that successfully with their sire, though he was always friendlier though is bigger and much more vicious...too vicious to be unable to control (he has literally ripped apart other dogs with little effort). They are naturally unsellable and with their attitudes I couldn't give them to some kid. If I get cows again, they aren't usable because I can't get my hands on them to put them in the traveling box much less get them back in their box and the only command they respond to is "come here" (in their case limited too six foot from my presence). Interestingly, they have a smaller littermate (whom they REALLY HATE) who is like a cartoon dog, he adores people, loves puppies and other dogs, is extremely trainable, was such a frequent visitor to the house from the moment that he could walk that he eventually moved in, and is infectiously happy. He sits in people's lap, likes hugs, and sleeps on the end of the bed. He instinctually grasped all the blue heeler cattle stuff (though I can't use him anymore, because Mother likes him too much to let me take him out of the house). Dog genetics are really wierd, it is hard to routinely get predictable performance from just about any line (I certainly have sc**wed this one up!!). Just because a dog is distant doesn't necessarily mean he has been abused. Just because a dog is nice doesn't mean he hasn't .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm22, post: 692158, member: 7645"] I have two sibs in a pen that don't like people AT ALL. I have had them all their lives. They hated to be handled as pups. The little guys would scream and scream if you held them. I broke them from biting and snapping but they grew increasingly difficult too catch. They will follow me around but getting my hands on either one of them is impossible and the female will bark and growl AT ME if I face her. Both will come for food; but not within six foot. At one point they got loose and were ranging over about 200 acres. I finally got them back in a pen. If I were more motivated I would try chaining the both of them up to try to break them. I did that successfully with their sire, though he was always friendlier though is bigger and much more vicious...too vicious to be unable to control (he has literally ripped apart other dogs with little effort). They are naturally unsellable and with their attitudes I couldn't give them to some kid. If I get cows again, they aren't usable because I can't get my hands on them to put them in the traveling box much less get them back in their box and the only command they respond to is "come here" (in their case limited too six foot from my presence). Interestingly, they have a smaller littermate (whom they REALLY HATE) who is like a cartoon dog, he adores people, loves puppies and other dogs, is extremely trainable, was such a frequent visitor to the house from the moment that he could walk that he eventually moved in, and is infectiously happy. He sits in people's lap, likes hugs, and sleeps on the end of the bed. He instinctually grasped all the blue heeler cattle stuff (though I can't use him anymore, because Mother likes him too much to let me take him out of the house). Dog genetics are really wierd, it is hard to routinely get predictable performance from just about any line (I certainly have sc**wed this one up!!). Just because a dog is distant doesn't necessarily mean he has been abused. Just because a dog is nice doesn't mean he hasn't . [/QUOTE]
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