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<blockquote data-quote="cowtrek" data-source="post: 276144" data-attributes="member: 2847"><p>I gotta agree with Jogeephus on this one... I would think twice about killing the clover. The only thing better than nitrogen is FREE nitrogen! Sounds like if your clover is overrunning the grass and forms a mat a couple inches high you might be overgrazing or something?? Don't want to accuse or anything just curious how that could happen. I'd LOVE to have clover running rampant down here. </p><p></p><p>Going back to the comments on the grazing heights, yep it depends on the species in question, as does the rest period it needs between grazing cycles. Generally, the faster growing grasses can be grazed shorter and more often than slower growing grasses which should be left with a higher stubble and allowed to regrow longer before regrazing. I don't quite understand why anyone would want to cut the pasture after it's grazed either. Are yall talking about cutting the weeds the cows leave behind or ungrazed grasses, such as less desirable grasses the cows passed over or around patties where they won't readily graze? I haven't found it necessary. Once in awhile I'll put them in on a patch and 'flash graze' it or leave them on awhile longer to "make" them eat the taller stuff. Yes it's harder on the good grass because they graze it closer too but if you only do it occassionally it doesn't seem to hurt it. </p><p></p><p>Good point on stocking density too. Recent articles I've read suggest that most folks are about 15% overstocked at least. Curiously enough culling the worst 15% of your herd will solve about 90% of your health and breeding problems. So the contention is that culling that 15% is a win-win scenario, as it removes your problems and leaves more grass and grazing for your highest performers, and improves your pastures and grass as well. </p><p></p><p>Yall take it easy! OL JR <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cowtrek, post: 276144, member: 2847"] I gotta agree with Jogeephus on this one... I would think twice about killing the clover. The only thing better than nitrogen is FREE nitrogen! Sounds like if your clover is overrunning the grass and forms a mat a couple inches high you might be overgrazing or something?? Don't want to accuse or anything just curious how that could happen. I'd LOVE to have clover running rampant down here. Going back to the comments on the grazing heights, yep it depends on the species in question, as does the rest period it needs between grazing cycles. Generally, the faster growing grasses can be grazed shorter and more often than slower growing grasses which should be left with a higher stubble and allowed to regrow longer before regrazing. I don't quite understand why anyone would want to cut the pasture after it's grazed either. Are yall talking about cutting the weeds the cows leave behind or ungrazed grasses, such as less desirable grasses the cows passed over or around patties where they won't readily graze? I haven't found it necessary. Once in awhile I'll put them in on a patch and 'flash graze' it or leave them on awhile longer to "make" them eat the taller stuff. Yes it's harder on the good grass because they graze it closer too but if you only do it occassionally it doesn't seem to hurt it. Good point on stocking density too. Recent articles I've read suggest that most folks are about 15% overstocked at least. Curiously enough culling the worst 15% of your herd will solve about 90% of your health and breeding problems. So the contention is that culling that 15% is a win-win scenario, as it removes your problems and leaves more grass and grazing for your highest performers, and improves your pastures and grass as well. Yall take it easy! OL JR :) [/QUOTE]
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