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<blockquote data-quote="rockridgecattle" data-source="post: 560465" data-attributes="member: 6198"><p>With cattle in the toilet for a few years now, remember i am in Canada, and the outlook for the turn around is maybe 2010-12, we are considering changing the way we do business. Or should i say our line of work.</p><p>Our thoughts (hubby and mine) decrease the cattle herd by 66-75%. Keeping enough cows that one bull can service. We like cows, animal husbandry is something we are good at, but the inputs and the low prices are enough to send one over the edge.</p><p>We have considered decreasing the herd health costs. In the way of stopping vaccinations but that would just shoot ourselves in the foot. Then there is the SSS method but that too can shoot your self in the foot. Sooo...</p><p>We are thinking of increaseing in the honey bees. We've dabled in it for a few years, took a big plunge this year.</p><p>Decreasing the cows would free up some pasture and hay land that needs to be worked and drop in clover. this is good land for clover, the seed is and has remained strong for several years now, with few producers of seed. The clover will require little to no fertilizer. the clover would have two crops, 1 for the bees, and one for seed.</p><p>We would cull the cows heavy. Looking at frame, size, problems, milking, calf weaning weight, keeping the best traits. I think there are aready 10 that are growing wheels in the fall due to temperment and such. Our thinking is that someday cows have to come up again. We already have all in infrastucture in place with the exception of a few things. It has taken many years to build that. Keeping a few cows would give reason to keep and not sell that infrastucture. When the market rebounds, we would rebuild.</p><p>Right now the hay crop is not so good. We haven't even started yet. 10 days behind. Why, rain and rain and more rain and then the ruts in the fiels that can be created and the risk of more rain today. Aim is to start monday. </p><p>don't get me wrong, I am glad and greatful for the rain, we have pasture now, we did not before.</p><p>The hay has been stunted due to spring lack of moisture, cool near freezing spring right up until mid June, and now alfalfa weavels. No $ to spray. All the $ is going to fuel. Thank God for crop insurance. But still, how can you justify paying the price for hay? Here eveyone is in the same boat, bad spring, bad summer, bad bugs, everyone is going to be wanting hay. It will just drive up the price. </p><p>Just thinking out loud.</p><p><span style="color: #000080">There are seasoned cattle producers here. Any of you changed directions on the farm just when things were going well and then crapped out? Did you decide to hang in there for a few more years? Any pearls of wisdom here?</span> </p><p>The idea of changing direction is a scary one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rockridgecattle, post: 560465, member: 6198"] With cattle in the toilet for a few years now, remember i am in Canada, and the outlook for the turn around is maybe 2010-12, we are considering changing the way we do business. Or should i say our line of work. Our thoughts (hubby and mine) decrease the cattle herd by 66-75%. Keeping enough cows that one bull can service. We like cows, animal husbandry is something we are good at, but the inputs and the low prices are enough to send one over the edge. We have considered decreasing the herd health costs. In the way of stopping vaccinations but that would just shoot ourselves in the foot. Then there is the SSS method but that too can shoot your self in the foot. Sooo... We are thinking of increaseing in the honey bees. We've dabled in it for a few years, took a big plunge this year. Decreasing the cows would free up some pasture and hay land that needs to be worked and drop in clover. this is good land for clover, the seed is and has remained strong for several years now, with few producers of seed. The clover will require little to no fertilizer. the clover would have two crops, 1 for the bees, and one for seed. We would cull the cows heavy. Looking at frame, size, problems, milking, calf weaning weight, keeping the best traits. I think there are aready 10 that are growing wheels in the fall due to temperment and such. Our thinking is that someday cows have to come up again. We already have all in infrastucture in place with the exception of a few things. It has taken many years to build that. Keeping a few cows would give reason to keep and not sell that infrastucture. When the market rebounds, we would rebuild. Right now the hay crop is not so good. We haven't even started yet. 10 days behind. Why, rain and rain and more rain and then the ruts in the fiels that can be created and the risk of more rain today. Aim is to start monday. don't get me wrong, I am glad and greatful for the rain, we have pasture now, we did not before. The hay has been stunted due to spring lack of moisture, cool near freezing spring right up until mid June, and now alfalfa weavels. No $ to spray. All the $ is going to fuel. Thank God for crop insurance. But still, how can you justify paying the price for hay? Here eveyone is in the same boat, bad spring, bad summer, bad bugs, everyone is going to be wanting hay. It will just drive up the price. Just thinking out loud. [color=#000080]There are seasoned cattle producers here. Any of you changed directions on the farm just when things were going well and then crapped out? Did you decide to hang in there for a few more years? Any pearls of wisdom here?[/color] The idea of changing direction is a scary one. [/QUOTE]
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