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<blockquote data-quote="backhoeboogie" data-source="post: 254525" data-attributes="member: 3162"><p>Sacrete is expensive. You are buying dried sand and gravel in a sack with a very small portion of portland cement in it. It costs well over $130 a yard for concrete. The gravel is pea gravel size which reduces strength. </p><p></p><p>If you can find what is called "remix" from a local gravel quarry, it will cost you about $7 a ton. 5 tons will net you about 4 yards. I mix 5 parts remix to 1 part portland cement and it is a very "hot" mix (strong). That is the Hoover Dam recipe I pulled out of a Civil Engineering Handbook. The cost for doing it this way reduces concrete cost to about $30 a yard. If you mix it this strong, you may want to keep the surface damp for about a week in this extreme heat we are experiencing. All you buy is from the hardware/home improvement store is Portland Cement and you mix that with the remix. </p><p></p><p>For anyone "local", I buy remix from Ingram's over in Rainbow, TX, just east of Glen Rose. </p><p></p><p>Rebar is great. BEZ's advice is great. But if you can find concrete mesh, it is actually stronger than rebar since it is all welded together. But for a well pad, fiber fill like BEZ advised is much simpler and you can mix it right with the concrete batch and pour it will sufficent strength.</p><p></p><p>For speed, I fill 10 5 gallon buckets of remix and put them in the front bucket of the tractor or backhoe. I have 5 buckets with 2 gallons of remix in each one. I put a large coffee can of water at the base of the mixer with the hose trickling on the ground. I dump the 2 gallons of portland in the mixer, 3/4 coffee can of water, then two 5 gallon buckets of remix and toss the buckets out of the way. It mixes quick. If the remix is dry, I go to a full can of water. I dump the concrete mixer over into the form and immediately reload. The hose is trickling in the coffee can. I drag the concrete and then it is time to dump and reload again. You have to work your tail off and you can only form so much at a time. </p><p></p><p>A continuous pour with a concrete truck is stronger, but if you are thinking of using sacrete, I'd resort to remix and buying Portland Cement if I were you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="backhoeboogie, post: 254525, member: 3162"] Sacrete is expensive. You are buying dried sand and gravel in a sack with a very small portion of portland cement in it. It costs well over $130 a yard for concrete. The gravel is pea gravel size which reduces strength. If you can find what is called "remix" from a local gravel quarry, it will cost you about $7 a ton. 5 tons will net you about 4 yards. I mix 5 parts remix to 1 part portland cement and it is a very "hot" mix (strong). That is the Hoover Dam recipe I pulled out of a Civil Engineering Handbook. The cost for doing it this way reduces concrete cost to about $30 a yard. If you mix it this strong, you may want to keep the surface damp for about a week in this extreme heat we are experiencing. All you buy is from the hardware/home improvement store is Portland Cement and you mix that with the remix. For anyone "local", I buy remix from Ingram's over in Rainbow, TX, just east of Glen Rose. Rebar is great. BEZ's advice is great. But if you can find concrete mesh, it is actually stronger than rebar since it is all welded together. But for a well pad, fiber fill like BEZ advised is much simpler and you can mix it right with the concrete batch and pour it will sufficent strength. For speed, I fill 10 5 gallon buckets of remix and put them in the front bucket of the tractor or backhoe. I have 5 buckets with 2 gallons of remix in each one. I put a large coffee can of water at the base of the mixer with the hose trickling on the ground. I dump the 2 gallons of portland in the mixer, 3/4 coffee can of water, then two 5 gallon buckets of remix and toss the buckets out of the way. It mixes quick. If the remix is dry, I go to a full can of water. I dump the concrete mixer over into the form and immediately reload. The hose is trickling in the coffee can. I drag the concrete and then it is time to dump and reload again. You have to work your tail off and you can only form so much at a time. A continuous pour with a concrete truck is stronger, but if you are thinking of using sacrete, I'd resort to remix and buying Portland Cement if I were you. [/QUOTE]
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