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<blockquote data-quote="Engler" data-source="post: 553923" data-attributes="member: 4110"><p>How good do your old bulls look? There's a couple of these guys that are allmost old enough to vote so they probably need a little bit of a break.</p><p></p><p>There aren't any 4-H calves on that link. They all are AI bulls at stud. I admit that some of them are too straight and look like junk, but a lot of them were too straight at 10 months when they took the cool pictures in Denver. So I believe that the argument of this being all about the kids needs to be tossed out, this is business.</p><p></p><p>If you're going to try and sell your truck I'm guessing that you're going to wash and detail it, not bring it right in from bouncing pastures all covered with mud and cow stuff. How's that any different than the owners of these bulls bringing them in and getting them maxed out. Getting the hair trained and clipped is all part of presentation. I'm not talking about airing quarters or surgicly "fixing" briskets ect, I'm talking about basic grooming(yes it's taken to an extreme with these guys, but the principals are the same as any county fair)</p><p></p><p>If the buyer is willing to toss money at all the fluff in a picture without doing any research are we supposed to lay all the problems at the feet of the seller? If you are chasing weaning or yearling weight for 10 years and all of the sudden you look and your cows are 250# heavier is it the fault of the breeder that you bought the bulls from or is it yours because you were to focused on the trees that you couldn't see the forest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Engler, post: 553923, member: 4110"] How good do your old bulls look? There's a couple of these guys that are allmost old enough to vote so they probably need a little bit of a break. There aren't any 4-H calves on that link. They all are AI bulls at stud. I admit that some of them are too straight and look like junk, but a lot of them were too straight at 10 months when they took the cool pictures in Denver. So I believe that the argument of this being all about the kids needs to be tossed out, this is business. If you're going to try and sell your truck I'm guessing that you're going to wash and detail it, not bring it right in from bouncing pastures all covered with mud and cow stuff. How's that any different than the owners of these bulls bringing them in and getting them maxed out. Getting the hair trained and clipped is all part of presentation. I'm not talking about airing quarters or surgicly "fixing" briskets ect, I'm talking about basic grooming(yes it's taken to an extreme with these guys, but the principals are the same as any county fair) If the buyer is willing to toss money at all the fluff in a picture without doing any research are we supposed to lay all the problems at the feet of the seller? If you are chasing weaning or yearling weight for 10 years and all of the sudden you look and your cows are 250# heavier is it the fault of the breeder that you bought the bulls from or is it yours because you were to focused on the trees that you couldn't see the forest. [/QUOTE]
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