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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 552722" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>charangusman08-</p><p></p><p>You have asked a question which, on the face of it, is "open-ended!" Which means - the hundreds of thousands of bits of "Researched Information" by Universities and Foundations (Nobel Foundation being the one that I can think of at the moment) would take years to reiterate and relate to you. </p><p></p><p>Let me cut through some of the rhetoric which would be presented here if all of us on this Forum were to question and delve into the many and various aspects of<strong><em>why</em></strong> your idea sounds dumb (perhaps - "not too advisable" would sound more acceptable than DUMB). </p><p></p><p></p><p>Questions:</p><p>How many years have you been operating your beef interprise as a Registered (Purebred) operation?</p><p>How many years have you been raising Charolais as a primary source of seedstock?</p><p>What are the THREE most important characteristics (Phenotypic and Genotypic) in your opinion which both Charolais AND Angus seedstock should possess?</p><p>How many years do you anticipate it taking you to "...work your way up..." to 40 or 50 Registered Charolais cows?</p><p></p><p>Now we arrive at the ..."not too advisable..." segment of your operation. The Genetics involved in the Crossbreeding of Charolais and Angus (AFTER you have spent 12 or 15 years developing an acceptable enough genetic and phenotypic seedstock base for your Charolais Foundation Breeding Herd in justifying your crossbreeding protocols), your "Multiple Trait Selection" choices with the Angus Breed now becomes of <strong>PRIME</strong> IMPORTANCE!! Why?? Because you must BALANCE your carefully chosen Charlais traits with the equally carefully chosen Angus traits to <strong><em><u>AVOID</u></em></strong> a CRASHING imbalance of Functional Traits which combine with the crossbreeding protocols anytime that two different Beef types (Terminal and Maternal) are utilized indiscriminately. The "Functional Traits" - skeletal structure (sound feet and legs, shoulder, spine), mammary structure (tight udders and small teats), disposition, femininity, body capacity, fleshing ability, muscle expression, and degree of fatness - all enter into the BALANCE of combining together different appearances of the same characteristics. AND - the ONE CRITICAL TRAIT in this mix-master plan of yours which has not been mentioned as yet is - - <strong>FERTILITY OF BOTH THE MALE AND FEMALE PROGENY!</strong> </p><p></p><p>Playing "Russian Roulette" with the Genetics and Phenotypic Characteristics in this scenario is a complicated venture! In my opinion, your entire premise is FLAWED - both financially and pragmatically. Unless you are independently wealthy and have many years of experience in Management and Marketing supporting your efforts, I agree with your family! It is MORE than "kinda' lame!"</p><p></p><p>...and I have answered your question as to "Why?"</p><p></p><p>DOC HARRIS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 552722, member: 1683"] charangusman08- You have asked a question which, on the face of it, is "open-ended!" Which means - the hundreds of thousands of bits of "Researched Information" by Universities and Foundations (Nobel Foundation being the one that I can think of at the moment) would take years to reiterate and relate to you. Let me cut through some of the rhetoric which would be presented here if all of us on this Forum were to question and delve into the many and various aspects of[b][i]why[/i][/b] your idea sounds dumb (perhaps - "not too advisable" would sound more acceptable than DUMB). Questions: How many years have you been operating your beef interprise as a Registered (Purebred) operation? How many years have you been raising Charolais as a primary source of seedstock? What are the THREE most important characteristics (Phenotypic and Genotypic) in your opinion which both Charolais AND Angus seedstock should possess? How many years do you anticipate it taking you to "...work your way up..." to 40 or 50 Registered Charolais cows? Now we arrive at the ..."not too advisable..." segment of your operation. The Genetics involved in the Crossbreeding of Charolais and Angus (AFTER you have spent 12 or 15 years developing an acceptable enough genetic and phenotypic seedstock base for your Charolais Foundation Breeding Herd in justifying your crossbreeding protocols), your "Multiple Trait Selection" choices with the Angus Breed now becomes of [b]PRIME[/b] IMPORTANCE!! Why?? Because you must BALANCE your carefully chosen Charlais traits with the equally carefully chosen Angus traits to [b][i][u]AVOID[/u][/i][/b] a CRASHING imbalance of Functional Traits which combine with the crossbreeding protocols anytime that two different Beef types (Terminal and Maternal) are utilized indiscriminately. The "Functional Traits" - skeletal structure (sound feet and legs, shoulder, spine), mammary structure (tight udders and small teats), disposition, femininity, body capacity, fleshing ability, muscle expression, and degree of fatness - all enter into the BALANCE of combining together different appearances of the same characteristics. AND - the ONE CRITICAL TRAIT in this mix-master plan of yours which has not been mentioned as yet is - - [b]FERTILITY OF BOTH THE MALE AND FEMALE PROGENY![/b] Playing "Russian Roulette" with the Genetics and Phenotypic Characteristics in this scenario is a complicated venture! In my opinion, your entire premise is FLAWED - both financially and pragmatically. Unless you are independently wealthy and have many years of experience in Management and Marketing supporting your efforts, I agree with your family! It is MORE than "kinda' lame!" ...and I have answered your question as to "Why?" DOC HARRIS [/QUOTE]
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