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<blockquote data-quote="DanMan" data-source="post: 1322990" data-attributes="member: 24723"><p>Doing some quick calculations. Assumptions:</p><p></p><p>* They actually do get 10 bags of 90 lbs green fodder per day as the workers say. I visit site only once a week or so, but am in phone contact.</p><p></p><p>* My Green fodder has about the same protein content as the information listed online</p><p></p><p>Feed:</p><p></p><p>Online resources say Berseem green fodder has DM of 20-25% and CP (crude protein) of 20% of the DM. Corn has CP of 8-9% of the DM. My Berseem definitely does not have DM of 20-25%, but rather is close to 12%.</p><p></p><p>Berseem (Trifolium Alexandrinum) - 55-60 lbs per day - 12 % DM - about 6.8 lbs DM - CP is 1.36 lbs</p><p>Corn - 4.4 lbs per day - 88% DM - about 3.9 lbs DM - CP is 0.33 lbs</p><p></p><p>Total feed DM is 10.7 lbs per day per bull. Total CP is 1.69 lbs which is about 15.8%.</p><p></p><p>Assuming average bull weight is 620 lbs, 2.0-2.5% of bodyweight equals DM of 12.4-15.5 lbs. </p><p>However since corn is about 1.5 as energy dense as green fodder, it might make up for the 10.7 lbs, but I do not know since they gaining has stopped.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Haha not unless they learn how to fly :cowboy: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes I believe the water is good. It is underground water from a bore-well. Trough is cleaned once or twice a day and refilled.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They were started rock salt blocks about 2-3 weeks ago. No minerals though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Their faeces are a bit watery, but that is probably expected if the fodder is 88% water lol. I guess I will switch to corn silage next time. The DM on this fodder was horrendous. However they did gain huge numbers of this same fodder and corn between the first and second measurement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If online resources are to be believed the CP of the feed is 15.7%. But this might not be actually true. I have heard of people using urea as a cheap protein source.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also I just build a shade for them yesterday. They were exposed to the sun before this and 3-4 days in the past week were hot. Can this be the cause? However I do not believe there were any significant hot days between Day 14 and Day 33, and even during that period their gains were very slow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DanMan, post: 1322990, member: 24723"] Doing some quick calculations. Assumptions: * They actually do get 10 bags of 90 lbs green fodder per day as the workers say. I visit site only once a week or so, but am in phone contact. * My Green fodder has about the same protein content as the information listed online Feed: Online resources say Berseem green fodder has DM of 20-25% and CP (crude protein) of 20% of the DM. Corn has CP of 8-9% of the DM. My Berseem definitely does not have DM of 20-25%, but rather is close to 12%. Berseem (Trifolium Alexandrinum) - 55-60 lbs per day - 12 % DM - about 6.8 lbs DM - CP is 1.36 lbs Corn - 4.4 lbs per day - 88% DM - about 3.9 lbs DM - CP is 0.33 lbs Total feed DM is 10.7 lbs per day per bull. Total CP is 1.69 lbs which is about 15.8%. Assuming average bull weight is 620 lbs, 2.0-2.5% of bodyweight equals DM of 12.4-15.5 lbs. However since corn is about 1.5 as energy dense as green fodder, it might make up for the 10.7 lbs, but I do not know since they gaining has stopped. Haha not unless they learn how to fly :cowboy: Yes I believe the water is good. It is underground water from a bore-well. Trough is cleaned once or twice a day and refilled. They were started rock salt blocks about 2-3 weeks ago. No minerals though. Their faeces are a bit watery, but that is probably expected if the fodder is 88% water lol. I guess I will switch to corn silage next time. The DM on this fodder was horrendous. However they did gain huge numbers of this same fodder and corn between the first and second measurement. If online resources are to be believed the CP of the feed is 15.7%. But this might not be actually true. I have heard of people using urea as a cheap protein source. Also I just build a shade for them yesterday. They were exposed to the sun before this and 3-4 days in the past week were hot. Can this be the cause? However I do not believe there were any significant hot days between Day 14 and Day 33, and even during that period their gains were very slow. [/QUOTE]
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