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<blockquote data-quote="3legdonkey" data-source="post: 856759" data-attributes="member: 17061"><p>Well I am reading Aftershock (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Aftershock-Protect-Yourself-Financial-Meltdown/dp/0470918144/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314548713&sr=8-1" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Aftershock-Protec ... 713&sr=8-1</a>) and the authors seem to view our near future in many of the same ways I do. So I though it might be intersting to see what others thought.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree and reading "When Money Dies" supports that position very strongly. But the author does not cover cattle ownership only farm land in general.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with you as do the Aftershock authors as we would be experiencing something completely different than a recession. Though for some people the difference might not feel much different.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe this to be a very valuable point. If we take FL, for example, it currently has 18 million people whereas in the 1920's there were only 1 million people. If prices go way up and comparative salaries go way down how will most of those people survive? A reasonable percentage of the US population is scraping by right now as it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that we have shifted our population to the cities with no connection to their food. But then again there was no other possibility. We have way to many people for each person to hold land and grow their own food.</p><p></p><p>I too considered the third world countries and how a global financial collapse would affect them. I do not believe we would swap places with then as their economies are tired to the US economy. But I do think that with their more basic infrastructures they would feel less of an effect then 1st world countries would. Rising countries like China would be in a deep pile as their economy is directly pegged to the US and the EU. And they are now net importers of food.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that the political is almost imposable to steer clear of for a very rounded discussion. But I also think you can decouple any current political rhetoric from the discussion and only bring in politics when required as a supporting example or point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="3legdonkey, post: 856759, member: 17061"] Well I am reading Aftershock ([url=http://www.amazon.com/Aftershock-Protect-Yourself-Financial-Meltdown/dp/0470918144/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314548713&sr=8-1]http://www.amazon.com/Aftershock-Protec ... 713&sr=8-1[/url]) and the authors seem to view our near future in many of the same ways I do. So I though it might be intersting to see what others thought. I agree and reading "When Money Dies" supports that position very strongly. But the author does not cover cattle ownership only farm land in general. I agree with you as do the Aftershock authors as we would be experiencing something completely different than a recession. Though for some people the difference might not feel much different. I believe this to be a very valuable point. If we take FL, for example, it currently has 18 million people whereas in the 1920's there were only 1 million people. If prices go way up and comparative salaries go way down how will most of those people survive? A reasonable percentage of the US population is scraping by right now as it is. I agree that we have shifted our population to the cities with no connection to their food. But then again there was no other possibility. We have way to many people for each person to hold land and grow their own food. I too considered the third world countries and how a global financial collapse would affect them. I do not believe we would swap places with then as their economies are tired to the US economy. But I do think that with their more basic infrastructures they would feel less of an effect then 1st world countries would. Rising countries like China would be in a deep pile as their economy is directly pegged to the US and the EU. And they are now net importers of food. I agree that the political is almost imposable to steer clear of for a very rounded discussion. But I also think you can decouple any current political rhetoric from the discussion and only bring in politics when required as a supporting example or point. [/QUOTE]
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