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<blockquote data-quote="alexfarms" data-source="post: 646631" data-attributes="member: 8677"><p>I have had numerous Angus breeders tell me that scurred animals don't necessarily carry the horned gene. Maybe that is true in the Angus breed, but I doubt it. The old American Polled Hereford Association had a Superior Sire Program in which bulls were genetically tested in various ways and one of the qualifications for becoming a Superior Sire was the bull had to be proven to be a 100% dehorner through matings to horned cows. In the history of the Superior Sire Program not one scurred bull tested was proven to be a 100% dehorner. I have made this challenge before and no one has ever answered it YET: Tell me one scurred bull that has been PROVEN to be a non-carrier of the horned gene. In most breeds scurred bulls are discarded, but in the old APHA some top notch scurred bulls were tested, if they weren't top bulls they probably would never have been kept...So please don't start the argument about "scurrs are a sign of superiority". IF someone can tell me of a proven 100% dehorner that is scurred, then I will start to believe the notion that there is no linkage between the presence of scurrs and the presence of the horned gene. With the current dna tests for horns, it looks to me like a 100% dehorning, scurred bull ought to have been identified.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="alexfarms, post: 646631, member: 8677"] I have had numerous Angus breeders tell me that scurred animals don't necessarily carry the horned gene. Maybe that is true in the Angus breed, but I doubt it. The old American Polled Hereford Association had a Superior Sire Program in which bulls were genetically tested in various ways and one of the qualifications for becoming a Superior Sire was the bull had to be proven to be a 100% dehorner through matings to horned cows. In the history of the Superior Sire Program not one scurred bull tested was proven to be a 100% dehorner. I have made this challenge before and no one has ever answered it YET: Tell me one scurred bull that has been PROVEN to be a non-carrier of the horned gene. In most breeds scurred bulls are discarded, but in the old APHA some top notch scurred bulls were tested, if they weren't top bulls they probably would never have been kept...So please don't start the argument about "scurrs are a sign of superiority". IF someone can tell me of a proven 100% dehorner that is scurred, then I will start to believe the notion that there is no linkage between the presence of scurrs and the presence of the horned gene. With the current dna tests for horns, it looks to me like a 100% dehorning, scurred bull ought to have been identified. [/QUOTE]
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