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<blockquote data-quote="Howdyjabo" data-source="post: 282670" data-attributes="member: 391"><p>I don't think the breed matters(as to wether you get a good'un) as much as it does to make sure they come from DIRRECT working lines. And the definition of "working" is alot more than pushing a few tame animals around the homestead.</p><p>Herding qualities are the first to be lost by careless breeding--Only the very best, most prooven dogs should be bred. papers don't mean a thing unless the dog is prooving itself first. Then they are nice to have to track bloodlines. </p><p></p><p>Border Collies are the cadalac of dogs--- but they can take alot more work on the owners part to raise and get them going.But they can do so much more when you do.</p><p>They aren't for everyone-- and they definetly need to be structured-treating them like a yard dog is dangerous for stock; neighbors and the dog itself.. </p><p>You can't treat a Border Collie just like any other dog-- they are unique . Thats why alot of people fail with them. The dog trains the humans how to exhist with them- instead of the other way around. Also they are so smart that they can get overwhelmed when given confusing messages. And they learn lessons fast..and not always the one you were planning on teaching <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>If you are not looking for a life partner-- go with one of the other breeds-- </p><p>And find a good WORKING breeder to buy from.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Howdyjabo, post: 282670, member: 391"] I don't think the breed matters(as to wether you get a good'un) as much as it does to make sure they come from DIRRECT working lines. And the definition of "working" is alot more than pushing a few tame animals around the homestead. Herding qualities are the first to be lost by careless breeding--Only the very best, most prooven dogs should be bred. papers don't mean a thing unless the dog is prooving itself first. Then they are nice to have to track bloodlines. Border Collies are the cadalac of dogs--- but they can take alot more work on the owners part to raise and get them going.But they can do so much more when you do. They aren't for everyone-- and they definetly need to be structured-treating them like a yard dog is dangerous for stock; neighbors and the dog itself.. You can't treat a Border Collie just like any other dog-- they are unique . Thats why alot of people fail with them. The dog trains the humans how to exhist with them- instead of the other way around. Also they are so smart that they can get overwhelmed when given confusing messages. And they learn lessons fast..and not always the one you were planning on teaching :) If you are not looking for a life partner-- go with one of the other breeds-- And find a good WORKING breeder to buy from. [/QUOTE]
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