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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1835904" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>I would also look at her manure and question the possibility of Johne's....it often will "rear it's ugly head" after some sort of "major event" ... like calving... in an older animal...</p><p></p><p>We could not get by with only 1 roll of hay per 60 head per day. That seems like a very small amount of hay for lactating cows. A 5x6 roll of hay here, would weigh in the 1200 lb range... with no other pasture, we figure a minimum of 30-40 lbs hay per head per day....for DRY cows..... so at 30 lbs that is enough hay for 40 head at best. Not enough for lactating cows. These few cows may be milking hard and are not getting enough to keep their body weight and make milk for the calves, regardless of the hay being rolled out for no competition.</p><p></p><p>Getting some fecal samples on the cows looking poor would be the best way to tell if they were actually wormy.</p><p>Barring fecal samples, to be sure, I probably would worm the 2-3 in question and then move the whole group 3 days later to a different pasture so the worms, if they have them, drop out into the pasture where they were, and they cannot get reinfected by grazing any short grass for at least 30-60 days...</p><p>We do not routinely worm adult cattle. If they are poor "doers" they get a worming and if the problems persist, they get sold. Since we do buy and sell some feeders, we do worm anything that comes on the place, and then go from there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1835904, member: 25884"] I would also look at her manure and question the possibility of Johne's....it often will "rear it's ugly head" after some sort of "major event" ... like calving... in an older animal... We could not get by with only 1 roll of hay per 60 head per day. That seems like a very small amount of hay for lactating cows. A 5x6 roll of hay here, would weigh in the 1200 lb range... with no other pasture, we figure a minimum of 30-40 lbs hay per head per day....for DRY cows..... so at 30 lbs that is enough hay for 40 head at best. Not enough for lactating cows. These few cows may be milking hard and are not getting enough to keep their body weight and make milk for the calves, regardless of the hay being rolled out for no competition. Getting some fecal samples on the cows looking poor would be the best way to tell if they were actually wormy. Barring fecal samples, to be sure, I probably would worm the 2-3 in question and then move the whole group 3 days later to a different pasture so the worms, if they have them, drop out into the pasture where they were, and they cannot get reinfected by grazing any short grass for at least 30-60 days... We do not routinely worm adult cattle. If they are poor "doers" they get a worming and if the problems persist, they get sold. Since we do buy and sell some feeders, we do worm anything that comes on the place, and then go from there. [/QUOTE]
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