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<blockquote data-quote="pdfangus" data-source="post: 524664" data-attributes="member: 6543"><p>A friend of mine who works a lot of cattle every day told me a while back that he had figured out how to determine which were gelbvigh crosses and which were limousine crosses.</p><p></p><p>He said the gelbvigh croses would kick you right in the chest and the Limousine crosses would usually kick high enough that they kicked over your head.</p><p></p><p>That is a joke son...</p><p></p><p>I have been an angus breeder for over 35 years. Some angus can get hot. I had one angus cow knock a 1400 lb appendix gelding right out from under me once. I have even seen a few tough herefords in my day. but they are the exceptions rather than the rules.</p><p></p><p>In my experience herd disposition is a factor of environment. Cattle that seldom see people are wilder. Cattle that are handled rough are rough. cattle that see folks regular and are handled quiet are pretty good to get along with. a cow herd generally reflects the disposition of the folks that work with them the most. range cattle don't get worked as much as eastern cattle so there is a little difference there.</p><p></p><p>Inquired of select Sires a few years back about the disposition of a new young bull from a big name outfit out west. They told me it was to early to tell and I asked for clarification. they told me that he had not seen a man on foot til he got to Plain city and it would take a while for him to stop climbing the walls. Turned into a very good bull for them.</p><p></p><p>Generally cross bred cattle are a little hotter than straight bred cattle. I can not explain it but have only observed it over my life. When I was a kid the charolais were tough. Their breeders have worked wonders with disposition and birth weight. The Limousine crosses and chianina crosses that I have worked have been a little hotter than average. I think the chianina could almost fly. great takeoff but not enough wing span. Have had a few brahma crosses make life interesting, most of them had some gertrude in em.</p><p></p><p>Like some one else said earlier there are generally as many differences within a breed as there are between breeds. disposition is usually a managment disease. </p><p></p><p>but something that exhibited poor disposition would not be a candidate for reproduction in my herd. I have an orphan calf this year. I have been feeding him for several months now. Nice looking calf and has a good pedigree. Will be one of my larger bull calves but he will make a nice steer becasue he is very flighty even though I have fed him every day. I just don't need the agravation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pdfangus, post: 524664, member: 6543"] A friend of mine who works a lot of cattle every day told me a while back that he had figured out how to determine which were gelbvigh crosses and which were limousine crosses. He said the gelbvigh croses would kick you right in the chest and the Limousine crosses would usually kick high enough that they kicked over your head. That is a joke son... I have been an angus breeder for over 35 years. Some angus can get hot. I had one angus cow knock a 1400 lb appendix gelding right out from under me once. I have even seen a few tough herefords in my day. but they are the exceptions rather than the rules. In my experience herd disposition is a factor of environment. Cattle that seldom see people are wilder. Cattle that are handled rough are rough. cattle that see folks regular and are handled quiet are pretty good to get along with. a cow herd generally reflects the disposition of the folks that work with them the most. range cattle don't get worked as much as eastern cattle so there is a little difference there. Inquired of select Sires a few years back about the disposition of a new young bull from a big name outfit out west. They told me it was to early to tell and I asked for clarification. they told me that he had not seen a man on foot til he got to Plain city and it would take a while for him to stop climbing the walls. Turned into a very good bull for them. Generally cross bred cattle are a little hotter than straight bred cattle. I can not explain it but have only observed it over my life. When I was a kid the charolais were tough. Their breeders have worked wonders with disposition and birth weight. The Limousine crosses and chianina crosses that I have worked have been a little hotter than average. I think the chianina could almost fly. great takeoff but not enough wing span. Have had a few brahma crosses make life interesting, most of them had some gertrude in em. Like some one else said earlier there are generally as many differences within a breed as there are between breeds. disposition is usually a managment disease. but something that exhibited poor disposition would not be a candidate for reproduction in my herd. I have an orphan calf this year. I have been feeding him for several months now. Nice looking calf and has a good pedigree. Will be one of my larger bull calves but he will make a nice steer becasue he is very flighty even though I have fed him every day. I just don't need the agravation. [/QUOTE]
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