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<blockquote data-quote="VCC" data-source="post: 1092569" data-attributes="member: 6399"><p>"carrier animals that have lethal defects" These animals do not have lethal defects, they just carry the gene that could produce an animal with that defect, if a carrier is bred to a carrier you have a 50% chance the breeding will produce an animal with the defect, 25% chance it is a carrier, and 25% it is clean. Since the bull calves get steered, there is little chance they will spread the gene, if he test his heifers and passes that information on to his clients and they breed accordingly they should be fine as well. </p><p>If you want a clean herd, that your choice, if he wants to manage his carriers and is diligent about the process he will be fine as well.</p><p>Problem is most the Club Calf bulls that throw the type are carriers, so until they start selecting for a different type at shows people will continue to breed cattle that carry the defective gene. There has been no proof that the steers that are winning carry the gene since there is no reason to test a steer, but the general consensus is that the steers that win are in fact carriers, at least of the TH gene. The bulls that are out of carriers that are clean and have the show calf look do not seem to pass that look on to their offspring. Anyone buying cattle with club calf genetics for breeding purpose should be aware of the defects and test the cattle of questionable mating, if it has not already been done.</p><p></p><p>This debate has been going on for years, and will continue I am sure, kind of like vegans and meat eaters, Liberals and Conservatives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VCC, post: 1092569, member: 6399"] "carrier animals that have lethal defects" These animals do not have lethal defects, they just carry the gene that could produce an animal with that defect, if a carrier is bred to a carrier you have a 50% chance the breeding will produce an animal with the defect, 25% chance it is a carrier, and 25% it is clean. Since the bull calves get steered, there is little chance they will spread the gene, if he test his heifers and passes that information on to his clients and they breed accordingly they should be fine as well. If you want a clean herd, that your choice, if he wants to manage his carriers and is diligent about the process he will be fine as well. Problem is most the Club Calf bulls that throw the type are carriers, so until they start selecting for a different type at shows people will continue to breed cattle that carry the defective gene. There has been no proof that the steers that are winning carry the gene since there is no reason to test a steer, but the general consensus is that the steers that win are in fact carriers, at least of the TH gene. The bulls that are out of carriers that are clean and have the show calf look do not seem to pass that look on to their offspring. Anyone buying cattle with club calf genetics for breeding purpose should be aware of the defects and test the cattle of questionable mating, if it has not already been done. This debate has been going on for years, and will continue I am sure, kind of like vegans and meat eaters, Liberals and Conservatives. [/QUOTE]
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