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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1605159" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>Those prices for that sized calves was not that bad considering. That's more than they are bringing here. Heifers in the $.90 to 1.15 range and steers in the 1.10to 1.40's. From 350 to 6 wts. I do think they will be up some in the spring, not huge gains, but a bit better. And the weaned and somewhat heavier ones will bring near the same per lb as the lighter ones so weight gain will be a plus if it doesn't cost too much to get the gain. </p><p>I look for 2021 to be a better year for prices. The lack of calves from this past years flooding and cattle loss up in the midwest will be catching up with lower cattle numbers. The farmers just getting tired and having sold out will also add to the lower numbers. I also think that the bred cow market will take a slight upward move. </p><p></p><p> Also, I do think that there will be more demand. If we don't get the deal worked out with China, and I honestly don't trust them as far as I could throw them, then they will get their needs met elsewhere.... but that will open us up to other markets looking for beef because they cannot find it if China has that all sewn up. I am sure not an expert, but I think that if we can hold on a bit, it will get a LITTLE better. But I don't foresee anything like we saw back in the 2011-2014 years, and if there isn't something figured out with the packer control, then I really do see where we will be at the mercy of them and the beef industry will be going the way of the hogs and chickens. Sure there will be smaller ones that will cater to a niche market, and we will need them if there is too much foreign control, as we might be at the mercy of others for food. So much contract stuff, and them dictating what they want....</p><p> </p><p> Hope that I am right about the uptick in prices, and wrong about that there will be more foreign control/strangulation of our food supply sources. I have told people for years that there will come the day, where we are "owned" by foreign "investors" and they will grab us by the balls and say, okay, we control the food, so you will do as we say..... I think sadly it is closer than many think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1605159, member: 25884"] Those prices for that sized calves was not that bad considering. That's more than they are bringing here. Heifers in the $.90 to 1.15 range and steers in the 1.10to 1.40's. From 350 to 6 wts. I do think they will be up some in the spring, not huge gains, but a bit better. And the weaned and somewhat heavier ones will bring near the same per lb as the lighter ones so weight gain will be a plus if it doesn't cost too much to get the gain. I look for 2021 to be a better year for prices. The lack of calves from this past years flooding and cattle loss up in the midwest will be catching up with lower cattle numbers. The farmers just getting tired and having sold out will also add to the lower numbers. I also think that the bred cow market will take a slight upward move. Also, I do think that there will be more demand. If we don't get the deal worked out with China, and I honestly don't trust them as far as I could throw them, then they will get their needs met elsewhere.... but that will open us up to other markets looking for beef because they cannot find it if China has that all sewn up. I am sure not an expert, but I think that if we can hold on a bit, it will get a LITTLE better. But I don't foresee anything like we saw back in the 2011-2014 years, and if there isn't something figured out with the packer control, then I really do see where we will be at the mercy of them and the beef industry will be going the way of the hogs and chickens. Sure there will be smaller ones that will cater to a niche market, and we will need them if there is too much foreign control, as we might be at the mercy of others for food. So much contract stuff, and them dictating what they want.... Hope that I am right about the uptick in prices, and wrong about that there will be more foreign control/strangulation of our food supply sources. I have told people for years that there will come the day, where we are "owned" by foreign "investors" and they will grab us by the balls and say, okay, we control the food, so you will do as we say..... I think sadly it is closer than many think. [/QUOTE]
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