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<blockquote data-quote="irked" data-source="post: 503803" data-attributes="member: 7861"><p>personal comments aside, this has been an interesting discussion. the personal comments no longer irk me. along with it's bullies, every internet forum that i have ever visited has it's sensitive types. if any of you expect me to preface my thoughts with: no offense intended, you will have a long wait. </p><p></p><p>i agree with the poster who suggested that people should present photos for the learning opportunity. however, shouldn't that be done before the purchase instead of after? and most certainly it should be done before turning the purchase out with the cows where he might breed something. in my experience, i've rarely seen anyone willing to admit that they made a mistake immediately after purchase. for some reason, they resort to the argument of: </p><p></p><p>i think i'll wait and see how his calves turn out.</p><p></p><p>i understand the idea that the proof in the pudding is the calf on the ground. or more importantly, the calf across the scales. but, quite often, waiting to see how the sorry bull's calves turn out turns into several calf crops. mongrels & mutts beget mongrels & mutts. multiplied by an infinite number of calving seasons.</p><p></p><p>i also like the suggestion to put the burden of selection on a reputable breeder. anyone who asks me to select something for them is assured of getting the very best i have. it's all about reputation. in most cases, reputations that have taken years to develop won't be squandered for the opportunity to sell you something that isn't what you want or need.</p><p></p><p>it's never a mistake for everyone to pursue the best genetics that they can afford. that doesn't mean that everyone should be looking at the $5000 bull. if it takes baby steps to get to where you need to be, that is the thing to do. i believe that the herd sire is the single most important investment a commercial cattleman can make when it comes to determining profitability. you should at least give your bull purchase as much thought as you give to deciding on the color of the king ranch pickup that you have convinced yourself you need to be a successful rancher.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irked, post: 503803, member: 7861"] personal comments aside, this has been an interesting discussion. the personal comments no longer irk me. along with it's bullies, every internet forum that i have ever visited has it's sensitive types. if any of you expect me to preface my thoughts with: no offense intended, you will have a long wait. i agree with the poster who suggested that people should present photos for the learning opportunity. however, shouldn't that be done before the purchase instead of after? and most certainly it should be done before turning the purchase out with the cows where he might breed something. in my experience, i've rarely seen anyone willing to admit that they made a mistake immediately after purchase. for some reason, they resort to the argument of: i think i'll wait and see how his calves turn out. i understand the idea that the proof in the pudding is the calf on the ground. or more importantly, the calf across the scales. but, quite often, waiting to see how the sorry bull's calves turn out turns into several calf crops. mongrels & mutts beget mongrels & mutts. multiplied by an infinite number of calving seasons. i also like the suggestion to put the burden of selection on a reputable breeder. anyone who asks me to select something for them is assured of getting the very best i have. it's all about reputation. in most cases, reputations that have taken years to develop won't be squandered for the opportunity to sell you something that isn't what you want or need. it's never a mistake for everyone to pursue the best genetics that they can afford. that doesn't mean that everyone should be looking at the $5000 bull. if it takes baby steps to get to where you need to be, that is the thing to do. i believe that the herd sire is the single most important investment a commercial cattleman can make when it comes to determining profitability. you should at least give your bull purchase as much thought as you give to deciding on the color of the king ranch pickup that you have convinced yourself you need to be a successful rancher. [/QUOTE]
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