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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 17253"><p>> We've attended several</p><p>> SHo-Me-Select sales and haven't</p><p>> been very temted to buy anything.</p><p>> The reason they are so big is</p><p>> becasue that's what a lot of</p><p>> people want. There are smaller</p><p>> genetic sized cattle of both</p><p>> Hereford and Angus blk or RED. We</p><p>> just got carcass data back on the</p><p>> last steer that was slaughtered.</p><p>> At 185 days he weaned at 492 from</p><p>> a heifer, BW of 60 lbs. Weight was</p><p>> 894 YG3 REA 12.7 BF .6 graded</p><p>> choice. Everything, almost, in the</p><p>> pen went YG3 or 4. When asked they</p><p>> said they had held them over</p><p>> longer then they should have by</p><p>> about 3 weeks. We were told not to</p><p>> worry about it that it was a</p><p>> fluke. Now the good part. That pen</p><p>> was in the top 10% of those</p><p>> slaguhtered in September so we are</p><p>> all getting a premium. About 36</p><p>> bucks. It ain't much, but I'm not</p><p>> giving it back. There are bulls</p><p>> that can give you good carcass</p><p>> numbers across the board. That's</p><p>> what EPDs are all about. That</p><p>> calves momma this weaning time</p><p>> weight 1105 lbsand her heifer calf</p><p>> weaned at 546 lbs. at 214 days, BW</p><p>> 70 lbs. This is all grass,</p><p>> fescue/clover mix with a little</p><p>> orchard grass , very little. The</p><p>> frame size bugaboo can sneak up on</p><p>> you and bite you when you least</p><p>> expect it. We stick with FS 5.5 -</p><p>> 6 bulls, Occasionally we will</p><p>> sneak up to 6.2 or even 6.5 but</p><p>> the heifers go to others that like</p><p>> the larger animals, or they go to</p><p>> the feedlot. Shoot me aqn e-mail</p><p>> if I can help you with anything</p><p>> else.</p><p></p><p>> dun</p><p></p><p>dun & others- I'm kind of new to this website, but was watching the postings on trying to keep smaller framed cattle. Saw a posting or two about Kit Pharo's cattle- really agree with much of his philosophy- I thought I'd let you know about another breeder that follows much the same theory- Diamond D Angus of Valier Mt.</p><p></p><p>They breed for the medium size cattle, that raise above 50% of their mothers weight. One thing they and Kit both do is rate disposition- they also rate udder -both of which I am convinced is inheritable- I've never bought any of their bulls, but I have a neighbor that has, who is very impressed.</p><p></p><p>I'm just glad to see some breeders to come around to their senses and realize that big is not always better!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 17253"] > We've attended several > SHo-Me-Select sales and haven't > been very temted to buy anything. > The reason they are so big is > becasue that's what a lot of > people want. There are smaller > genetic sized cattle of both > Hereford and Angus blk or RED. We > just got carcass data back on the > last steer that was slaughtered. > At 185 days he weaned at 492 from > a heifer, BW of 60 lbs. Weight was > 894 YG3 REA 12.7 BF .6 graded > choice. Everything, almost, in the > pen went YG3 or 4. When asked they > said they had held them over > longer then they should have by > about 3 weeks. We were told not to > worry about it that it was a > fluke. Now the good part. That pen > was in the top 10% of those > slaguhtered in September so we are > all getting a premium. About 36 > bucks. It ain't much, but I'm not > giving it back. There are bulls > that can give you good carcass > numbers across the board. That's > what EPDs are all about. That > calves momma this weaning time > weight 1105 lbsand her heifer calf > weaned at 546 lbs. at 214 days, BW > 70 lbs. This is all grass, > fescue/clover mix with a little > orchard grass , very little. The > frame size bugaboo can sneak up on > you and bite you when you least > expect it. We stick with FS 5.5 - > 6 bulls, Occasionally we will > sneak up to 6.2 or even 6.5 but > the heifers go to others that like > the larger animals, or they go to > the feedlot. Shoot me aqn e-mail > if I can help you with anything > else. > dun dun & others- I'm kind of new to this website, but was watching the postings on trying to keep smaller framed cattle. Saw a posting or two about Kit Pharo's cattle- really agree with much of his philosophy- I thought I'd let you know about another breeder that follows much the same theory- Diamond D Angus of Valier Mt. They breed for the medium size cattle, that raise above 50% of their mothers weight. One thing they and Kit both do is rate disposition- they also rate udder -both of which I am convinced is inheritable- I've never bought any of their bulls, but I have a neighbor that has, who is very impressed. I'm just glad to see some breeders to come around to their senses and realize that big is not always better!! [/QUOTE]
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