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<blockquote data-quote="marksmu" data-source="post: 789703" data-attributes="member: 9219"><p>To respond to a few of the posts....the seller did the fertility test. I was responsible for picking up from the vet following a positive fertility test. Seller delivered to the vet. This bull was not crazy prior to all of this. He went nuts while at the vet. Prior to that he had been penned in a 2 acre area where the seller had been keeping the registered bulls for sale. The seller had been feeding hay and feed by hand, and none of the 16-17 bulls that were penned showed any signs of aggression on his ranch which is where I picked the 2 I wanted.</p><p></p><p>It was not until the bull got his leg caught in the vets squeeze that he got worked up. I was not there for the fertility test. I did not pick up until I had confirmation from the vet of a good result. The vet informed me that he had gotten his back right leg in the chute and that they had to leave him stuck until he calmed down....I am thinking they sampled him while he was stuck, and that worked him up more. He had an area about 2 inches by 2 inches that the vet shaved and put topical antibiotics on because of him getting stuck. </p><p></p><p>I have 2 cows that get crazy once they are penned, that are otherwise always gentle, and so I did not think too much about this bull getting really upset while he was stuck and being prodded in areas that I would get upset about as well. I figured my cattle being as calm as they are would help to calm him down a bit.</p><p></p><p>So now Ive got him penned in a small area 6 or 7 acre area with water....He is not alone but he is not with the majority of the herd. He is penned up with the 7 other cows that are for no good reason afraid to cross a new bridge over a canal. I moved the other 60 or so head out of the pasture with him and left him with the 7 chickens who are afraid to walk over a 30' wide wood bridge. (that also drives me nuts)</p><p></p><p>I don't think the seller did anything wrong here, which is why I am reluctant to return him to the seller....But from your responses it sounds like everyone seems to think the consensus is that its not broken? He puts weight on it, and he will walk with a limp....I just dont really know my options. I am pretty reasonable, and I think if I were the seller I would not feel like the problem was my fault here....maybe the vets, but the seller dropped the bull off without issue...its the vet who would be more responsible I think....I dont know how he was treated while he was there....I was not there for it, and neither was the seller. The vet kept the bull till the fertility result was confirmed.</p><p></p><p>I am going to try to get back down there again to see him some night this week. I will take photos and see if I cant get a video of the walk to post. </p><p></p><p>If he remains aggressive I will ship him...there is no place for a bull that is aggressive in my operation. We are always feeding cubes by hand, and I am not going to die giving cubes, thats for dang sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="marksmu, post: 789703, member: 9219"] To respond to a few of the posts....the seller did the fertility test. I was responsible for picking up from the vet following a positive fertility test. Seller delivered to the vet. This bull was not crazy prior to all of this. He went nuts while at the vet. Prior to that he had been penned in a 2 acre area where the seller had been keeping the registered bulls for sale. The seller had been feeding hay and feed by hand, and none of the 16-17 bulls that were penned showed any signs of aggression on his ranch which is where I picked the 2 I wanted. It was not until the bull got his leg caught in the vets squeeze that he got worked up. I was not there for the fertility test. I did not pick up until I had confirmation from the vet of a good result. The vet informed me that he had gotten his back right leg in the chute and that they had to leave him stuck until he calmed down....I am thinking they sampled him while he was stuck, and that worked him up more. He had an area about 2 inches by 2 inches that the vet shaved and put topical antibiotics on because of him getting stuck. I have 2 cows that get crazy once they are penned, that are otherwise always gentle, and so I did not think too much about this bull getting really upset while he was stuck and being prodded in areas that I would get upset about as well. I figured my cattle being as calm as they are would help to calm him down a bit. So now Ive got him penned in a small area 6 or 7 acre area with water....He is not alone but he is not with the majority of the herd. He is penned up with the 7 other cows that are for no good reason afraid to cross a new bridge over a canal. I moved the other 60 or so head out of the pasture with him and left him with the 7 chickens who are afraid to walk over a 30' wide wood bridge. (that also drives me nuts) I don't think the seller did anything wrong here, which is why I am reluctant to return him to the seller....But from your responses it sounds like everyone seems to think the consensus is that its not broken? He puts weight on it, and he will walk with a limp....I just dont really know my options. I am pretty reasonable, and I think if I were the seller I would not feel like the problem was my fault here....maybe the vets, but the seller dropped the bull off without issue...its the vet who would be more responsible I think....I dont know how he was treated while he was there....I was not there for it, and neither was the seller. The vet kept the bull till the fertility result was confirmed. I am going to try to get back down there again to see him some night this week. I will take photos and see if I cant get a video of the walk to post. If he remains aggressive I will ship him...there is no place for a bull that is aggressive in my operation. We are always feeding cubes by hand, and I am not going to die giving cubes, thats for dang sure. [/QUOTE]
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