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<blockquote data-quote="Willow Springs" data-source="post: 736419" data-attributes="member: 9002"><p>I really think that the bull "tests" are a thing of the past. Cattleland in Strathmore used to run the largest one in Canada, testing thousands of bulls. I believe they have about 4-500 in this year; I don't think it is a growth business. Tests used to work when herds were small and guys didn't want to worry about having an extra pen for 5 -10 bulls. Now bulls are developed on farm where the sellers can interact directly with their bull customers. Herds are larger now and the larger herds usually have equipment to match which needs to be paid for. They would rather use your yardage charge to pay themselves and to make payments on their own machinery. EPD's have also decreased the need to "test" your bulls against other breeders of growth. The test system was flawed anyway; bringing in calves at 200-240 days, warming up for 28 and then a 112-140 day test?? The test days are only half of what the pre-test days were, so really what was the point? Generally the bulls that came off tougher pastures, etc gained the best on test.</p><p></p><p>I think that if you go ahead with this, plan on having a background/finishing feedlot and "developing" some bulls as well. I do know some purebred guys that feed in custom lots, but they are more often in the south where they run cows more on banked pasture than silage and don't have the infrastructure. So maybe being where you are you could source from those breeders?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willow Springs, post: 736419, member: 9002"] I really think that the bull "tests" are a thing of the past. Cattleland in Strathmore used to run the largest one in Canada, testing thousands of bulls. I believe they have about 4-500 in this year; I don't think it is a growth business. Tests used to work when herds were small and guys didn't want to worry about having an extra pen for 5 -10 bulls. Now bulls are developed on farm where the sellers can interact directly with their bull customers. Herds are larger now and the larger herds usually have equipment to match which needs to be paid for. They would rather use your yardage charge to pay themselves and to make payments on their own machinery. EPD's have also decreased the need to "test" your bulls against other breeders of growth. The test system was flawed anyway; bringing in calves at 200-240 days, warming up for 28 and then a 112-140 day test?? The test days are only half of what the pre-test days were, so really what was the point? Generally the bulls that came off tougher pastures, etc gained the best on test. I think that if you go ahead with this, plan on having a background/finishing feedlot and "developing" some bulls as well. I do know some purebred guys that feed in custom lots, but they are more often in the south where they run cows more on banked pasture than silage and don't have the infrastructure. So maybe being where you are you could source from those breeders? [/QUOTE]
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