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<blockquote data-quote="ollie&#039;" data-source="post: 140339" data-attributes="member: 2432"><p>I am certainly not saying they will all work. I am not even advocating keeping this bull. That is the owners decision. When my bull got injured I called the vet and he didnt' even come examine him. I described the injury and the extent of the swelling. He said it was probably better to salvage him but in some cases they will go ahead and work. I liked the bull and he had some traits that would be hard to replace economicaly . I asked some of my older friends what experience they had had. Some of them told me that they had had bulls that went ahead and worked. They said the trouble would be adheasions growing at the injury site. If this happened they would develop into a bull with the symptoms of Lilly's. They advised I let him in a trap against some bulling heifers and after a month or two to let him try one . I did and he swelled and looked worse after the experience. When the swelling went down I took him to the stud and had some semen collected. I dont' remember the morpholohy or the motility but they won't freeze questionable semen even for the owner. It was good quality semen . This spring when the bull was two past I tried him again on a cow or heifer ( I can't remember) and he struggled but got her bred with no swelling. I turned him out and watched him breed them. In no time at all he was breeding them normally. If it is handy and you have the time and space I would try him. Salvage value is 800 and the replacement cost 2000. Seems like a easy way to make 1200 if it works with only 200 or so in feed and risk. You do what seems best . I am just advising what I would do. If the bull was worth more I would sure try it. The bull of mine was just past 2 this last spring.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ollie', post: 140339, member: 2432"] I am certainly not saying they will all work. I am not even advocating keeping this bull. That is the owners decision. When my bull got injured I called the vet and he didnt' even come examine him. I described the injury and the extent of the swelling. He said it was probably better to salvage him but in some cases they will go ahead and work. I liked the bull and he had some traits that would be hard to replace economicaly . I asked some of my older friends what experience they had had. Some of them told me that they had had bulls that went ahead and worked. They said the trouble would be adheasions growing at the injury site. If this happened they would develop into a bull with the symptoms of Lilly's. They advised I let him in a trap against some bulling heifers and after a month or two to let him try one . I did and he swelled and looked worse after the experience. When the swelling went down I took him to the stud and had some semen collected. I dont' remember the morpholohy or the motility but they won't freeze questionable semen even for the owner. It was good quality semen . This spring when the bull was two past I tried him again on a cow or heifer ( I can't remember) and he struggled but got her bred with no swelling. I turned him out and watched him breed them. In no time at all he was breeding them normally. If it is handy and you have the time and space I would try him. Salvage value is 800 and the replacement cost 2000. Seems like a easy way to make 1200 if it works with only 200 or so in feed and risk. You do what seems best . I am just advising what I would do. If the bull was worth more I would sure try it. The bull of mine was just past 2 this last spring. [/QUOTE]
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