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<blockquote data-quote="Ebenezer" data-source="post: 1807592" data-attributes="member: 24565"><p>I find your comments from a pedestal to be useless. Who is going to qualify folks to be able to issue linebreeding permits? And who has suggested to others to linebreed indiscriminately? Nobody! You fight a paper tiger and run the straw man argument. </p><p></p><p>Precision and other recent Angus defects, in my opinion, were people problems rather than animal problems. Like Larry Leonhardt used to say, "most animal problems are people problems". I think some of the uppity ups, movers and shakers in the Angus world along with owners of defected bulls swept the problem under the rug to protect sales. When it finally was forced, the problems became public. Those particular defects were not started as inherited or due to linebreeding. They were mutant defects. </p><p></p><p>If you think that you have seen all of the changes in the livestock industry you are shorting the history. Before the fear of inbreeding and the use of AI, a lot of the foundational herd, flocks and such were linebred. It only helps the promoters and salesmen to promote that no home raised animal can compete with a purchased animal. And there are sorry line crossed cattle in most every sales catalog where freaks and outliers are the special lots. </p><p></p><p>I really get tired of all of this high and mighty negativity and ill based rhetoric.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ebenezer, post: 1807592, member: 24565"] I find your comments from a pedestal to be useless. Who is going to qualify folks to be able to issue linebreeding permits? And who has suggested to others to linebreed indiscriminately? Nobody! You fight a paper tiger and run the straw man argument. Precision and other recent Angus defects, in my opinion, were people problems rather than animal problems. Like Larry Leonhardt used to say, "most animal problems are people problems". I think some of the uppity ups, movers and shakers in the Angus world along with owners of defected bulls swept the problem under the rug to protect sales. When it finally was forced, the problems became public. Those particular defects were not started as inherited or due to linebreeding. They were mutant defects. If you think that you have seen all of the changes in the livestock industry you are shorting the history. Before the fear of inbreeding and the use of AI, a lot of the foundational herd, flocks and such were linebred. It only helps the promoters and salesmen to promote that no home raised animal can compete with a purchased animal. And there are sorry line crossed cattle in most every sales catalog where freaks and outliers are the special lots. I really get tired of all of this high and mighty negativity and ill based rhetoric. [/QUOTE]
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