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<blockquote data-quote="Travlr" data-source="post: 1807513" data-attributes="member: 42463"><p>1. I don't fear inbreeding... I fear the indiscriminate and ignorant use with people that have no understanding of the serious genetic issues involved. And I fear those that would promote it to people as though it has no consequences.</p><p>2. Yes, entire herds have been eliminated due to genetic issues... before genetic technologies advanced to the degree they can be used today. </p><p></p><p>From the following link: Given that Precision 1680 had sired thousands of sons and daughters, that have in turn produced thousands upon thousands more offspring, it is clear that the number of animals carrying the genetic abnormality in this and other countries' beef cattle populations is substantial.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.simmental.org/site/userimages/curlycalf/November%20Register%2008%20Curly%20Calf%20Syndrome.pdf[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]31090[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://animalbiotech.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk501/files/inline-files/curly%20calf_0.pdf" target="_blank">3</a>. I can't believe people are having a problem with concerns over something that can be serious, short and long term. Is it irresponsible to warn someone about the reasons for taking a cautious approach? </p><p></p><p>I'm done here. I've seen a lot of changes in the industry over time and some not good, and one I never thought I'd see is cattle producers defending and even promoting inbreeding. I'm disappointed that this rather innocent warning has been blown up into something it was never intended to be, but I'll stand by the warning given until someone explains how the Precision 1680 effects were desirable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Travlr, post: 1807513, member: 42463"] 1. I don't fear inbreeding... I fear the indiscriminate and ignorant use with people that have no understanding of the serious genetic issues involved. And I fear those that would promote it to people as though it has no consequences. 2. Yes, entire herds have been eliminated due to genetic issues... before genetic technologies advanced to the degree they can be used today. From the following link: Given that Precision 1680 had sired thousands of sons and daughters, that have in turn produced thousands upon thousands more offspring, it is clear that the number of animals carrying the genetic abnormality in this and other countries' beef cattle populations is substantial. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.simmental.org/site/userimages/curlycalf/November%20Register%2008%20Curly%20Calf%20Syndrome.pdf[/URL] [ATTACH type="full" alt="CURLY CALF SYNDROME (ARTHROGRYPOSIS MULTIPLEX) TEST AVAILABLE"]31090[/ATTACH] [URL='https://animalbiotech.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk501/files/inline-files/curly%20calf_0.pdf']3[/URL]. I can't believe people are having a problem with concerns over something that can be serious, short and long term. Is it irresponsible to warn someone about the reasons for taking a cautious approach? I'm done here. I've seen a lot of changes in the industry over time and some not good, and one I never thought I'd see is cattle producers defending and even promoting inbreeding. I'm disappointed that this rather innocent warning has been blown up into something it was never intended to be, but I'll stand by the warning given until someone explains how the Precision 1680 effects were desirable. [/QUOTE]
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