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<blockquote data-quote="wbvs58" data-source="post: 1807510" data-attributes="member: 16453"><p>I know what you mean if they have a year off, I have had a few over the years they get big when not being productive. I actually get a bit embaressed about people seeing ones like that in my herd now. I have upped the anti a bit with mine now they have to calve at 2 yrs of age and everything in the herd gets just one round of AI and the with then with the bull. I shoot for everything to calve in the month of July, any that fall outside this gets found a new home. I have decided there will be no exceptions and am excited to see the results down the track. I have got things pretty tight over the last couple of years but now I want to plug up any of the cracks and take it to a new level.</p><p>On in/line breeding I use my own bulls and due to some failed semen I had a lot of work for the bull to do, he was out of probably my best cow and he got to breed a couple of his half sisters and his mother. I am hoping to get some heifers from these close matings to retain especially to his mother. Unlike Travlr I don't fear inbreeding, I feel genetic conditions if they do occur can be easily handled with the technology available today especially with the database and resources available in the Angus breed and contrary to what Travlr tries to imply whole herds have not been lost to genetic conditions in the past they have been easily managed, registered cows can even be kept in the stud herd and progeny tested for their carrier status alternatively they just go to the commercial herd and a carrier free bull used on them for the rest of their commercial life.</p><p>As far as your situation with inbreeding I doubt in the unlikely event that a genetic defect did crop up little damage would be done and easily dealt with as your genetics are not going far and wide. With recessive conditions only an occaisional cow will carry the defect and if mated to a carrier bull even then only 1 in 4 calves will be homozygous for the defect and display it, certainly not whole herds wiped out. I have been through all this with Travlr before and know his views so I won't say any more on the subject.</p><p>Ken</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wbvs58, post: 1807510, member: 16453"] I know what you mean if they have a year off, I have had a few over the years they get big when not being productive. I actually get a bit embaressed about people seeing ones like that in my herd now. I have upped the anti a bit with mine now they have to calve at 2 yrs of age and everything in the herd gets just one round of AI and the with then with the bull. I shoot for everything to calve in the month of July, any that fall outside this gets found a new home. I have decided there will be no exceptions and am excited to see the results down the track. I have got things pretty tight over the last couple of years but now I want to plug up any of the cracks and take it to a new level. On in/line breeding I use my own bulls and due to some failed semen I had a lot of work for the bull to do, he was out of probably my best cow and he got to breed a couple of his half sisters and his mother. I am hoping to get some heifers from these close matings to retain especially to his mother. Unlike Travlr I don't fear inbreeding, I feel genetic conditions if they do occur can be easily handled with the technology available today especially with the database and resources available in the Angus breed and contrary to what Travlr tries to imply whole herds have not been lost to genetic conditions in the past they have been easily managed, registered cows can even be kept in the stud herd and progeny tested for their carrier status alternatively they just go to the commercial herd and a carrier free bull used on them for the rest of their commercial life. As far as your situation with inbreeding I doubt in the unlikely event that a genetic defect did crop up little damage would be done and easily dealt with as your genetics are not going far and wide. With recessive conditions only an occaisional cow will carry the defect and if mated to a carrier bull even then only 1 in 4 calves will be homozygous for the defect and display it, certainly not whole herds wiped out. I have been through all this with Travlr before and know his views so I won't say any more on the subject. Ken [/QUOTE]
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