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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1577224" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>Looks "right decent" to me !!!!!!! He's got some shape to his rump too, I like that. </p><p> I have to agree that there are an awful lot of bulls on the market today. And the cull bull market is off, so no reason to ship a good older bull if you have cows that he can be used on. We have 2 that are calving ease that we bought 2 different years back at least 6-8 yrs ago. I try to be sure they are not used on their own daughters, but have been used on granddaughters. No good reason to ship them because we breed our heifers a little older/bigger and they can handle these bulls. Both have good dispositions, and we have kept several of their calves off first calf heifers in the past. There will be a time to send them, but with prices having been in the 3-5,000 range up until this past year, we felt we could get some good use out of them. The calves are not so small out of mature cows as we have put them with some cows also. We also have a bull we have kept for at least 8-9 years, he throws nice calves, and is easy to work around. As long as they do the job, and the cull bull market is down, they can stay. It doesn't cost much to keep them as they have done all their growing and they laze away when not with the cows working. We are lucky to have places to make sure they are not used on their own daughters, and often with the older bulls, they don't see any of their kin until at least 3-4 generations off. Not perfect, but why replace something you like the off spring from, if you don't need to? Yep, I hear genetic improvement and all that, but if the cows are putting good calves on the ground, that grow decent and the crop is some - what uniform, so you can sell in groups of 5-10 or more, why change things?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1577224, member: 25884"] Looks "right decent" to me !!!!!!! He's got some shape to his rump too, I like that. I have to agree that there are an awful lot of bulls on the market today. And the cull bull market is off, so no reason to ship a good older bull if you have cows that he can be used on. We have 2 that are calving ease that we bought 2 different years back at least 6-8 yrs ago. I try to be sure they are not used on their own daughters, but have been used on granddaughters. No good reason to ship them because we breed our heifers a little older/bigger and they can handle these bulls. Both have good dispositions, and we have kept several of their calves off first calf heifers in the past. There will be a time to send them, but with prices having been in the 3-5,000 range up until this past year, we felt we could get some good use out of them. The calves are not so small out of mature cows as we have put them with some cows also. We also have a bull we have kept for at least 8-9 years, he throws nice calves, and is easy to work around. As long as they do the job, and the cull bull market is down, they can stay. It doesn't cost much to keep them as they have done all their growing and they laze away when not with the cows working. We are lucky to have places to make sure they are not used on their own daughters, and often with the older bulls, they don't see any of their kin until at least 3-4 generations off. Not perfect, but why replace something you like the off spring from, if you don't need to? Yep, I hear genetic improvement and all that, but if the cows are putting good calves on the ground, that grow decent and the crop is some - what uniform, so you can sell in groups of 5-10 or more, why change things? [/QUOTE]
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