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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 12611"><p>> I firmly believe we are going</p><p>> attempt to have an ID program in</p><p>> place very soon.I say attempt</p><p>> because I am more than a little</p><p>> concerned it is even possible. I</p><p>> also think it will be done with</p><p>> eartags and not implanted</p><p>> microchips.You would be amazed at</p><p></p><p>> the people that own cattle and</p><p>> don't even have a headgate.I</p><p>> wonder if penalties will be</p><p>> enforced on those who don't comply</p><p>> with the rules.I wonder if some</p><p>> folks will say it is too much</p><p>> trouble and just get out of the</p><p>> business all together. Any</p><p>> thoughts?</p><p></p><p>Canada has had an ID system in place for 2 yrs. now. It's a bar code ear tag, and every animal must be IDed from it's place of birth. The Holstein Association has had the tagging system in place for a lot longer. Every Canadian born holstein born in the last five years has an individual number that you can look up (via internet) and find all it's info (date and place of birth,ownership history, progeny and pedigree). ALL this still has not accelerated the opening of the U.S. border to live Canadian Cattle under 30 months of age. The Canadian crisis is strictly political, nothing to do with science, food safety, bio-security or anything else. I'm fearful that you the U.S. producer will be left holding the bag and shouldering the whole load just like the Canadian producers are and the U.K. producers were at the height of their crises. the ID system here is entirely traceback,but when I sold a group of stockers earlier last spring they did not have the tag # on the Statement/cheque. the tagging system allows the buyer to trace the animal back to me but I couldn't follow where the animals went,or which animal sold for the high price or which one was discounted. If you are going to implement an ID system, as producers you should insist on trace forward as well as trace back.</p><p></p><p>To me it seems the consumer doesn't want to hear any bad news about food safety, if they do they blame the producer first. Beef in the stores sell now at close to the same it was before May 20th yet the farmer is getting 70% to 10% of the spring '03 price.It seems to me that no one wants to hear how tough a cattle farmer is having it. The farm suppliers still want to sell their products and still want to get paid for it. The bank is reluctant to re-negotiate any loans and if they do they want a higher interest rate(more risk of course)or charge a bunch more fees. The accountant is willing to spend more time to assess the books but of course he charges for that extra time as well. And the "compensation package" is worth as much as a soggy catalogue in an outhouse. Sorry for the rant but my thoughts are with you guys(gals) and I wish you the best.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <a href="mailto:littlebigbend@yahoo.ca">littlebigbend@yahoo.ca</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 12611"] > I firmly believe we are going > attempt to have an ID program in > place very soon.I say attempt > because I am more than a little > concerned it is even possible. I > also think it will be done with > eartags and not implanted > microchips.You would be amazed at > the people that own cattle and > don't even have a headgate.I > wonder if penalties will be > enforced on those who don't comply > with the rules.I wonder if some > folks will say it is too much > trouble and just get out of the > business all together. Any > thoughts? Canada has had an ID system in place for 2 yrs. now. It's a bar code ear tag, and every animal must be IDed from it's place of birth. The Holstein Association has had the tagging system in place for a lot longer. Every Canadian born holstein born in the last five years has an individual number that you can look up (via internet) and find all it's info (date and place of birth,ownership history, progeny and pedigree). ALL this still has not accelerated the opening of the U.S. border to live Canadian Cattle under 30 months of age. The Canadian crisis is strictly political, nothing to do with science, food safety, bio-security or anything else. I'm fearful that you the U.S. producer will be left holding the bag and shouldering the whole load just like the Canadian producers are and the U.K. producers were at the height of their crises. the ID system here is entirely traceback,but when I sold a group of stockers earlier last spring they did not have the tag # on the Statement/cheque. the tagging system allows the buyer to trace the animal back to me but I couldn't follow where the animals went,or which animal sold for the high price or which one was discounted. If you are going to implement an ID system, as producers you should insist on trace forward as well as trace back. To me it seems the consumer doesn't want to hear any bad news about food safety, if they do they blame the producer first. Beef in the stores sell now at close to the same it was before May 20th yet the farmer is getting 70% to 10% of the spring '03 price.It seems to me that no one wants to hear how tough a cattle farmer is having it. The farm suppliers still want to sell their products and still want to get paid for it. The bank is reluctant to re-negotiate any loans and if they do they want a higher interest rate(more risk of course)or charge a bunch more fees. The accountant is willing to spend more time to assess the books but of course he charges for that extra time as well. And the "compensation package" is worth as much as a soggy catalogue in an outhouse. Sorry for the rant but my thoughts are with you guys(gals) and I wish you the best. [email=littlebigbend@yahoo.ca]littlebigbend@yahoo.ca[/email] [/QUOTE]
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