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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 12772"><p>Frankie that's a good bit of factual information. Thanks for bringing that to light. My intention was not to deem fruits and vegetables totally safe, but rather to discuss traceability. Trust me, my heart lies wholly in beef. With citrus from Florida (at least the plants we market for), I could take a trip to Europe or Asia or anywhere else for that matter, and provided the fruit was still in it's packaging, I could identify from a section of land where it came from. We are taking steps to narrow that down to a few trees. We are also trying to put traceability into each individual piece. I suppose that would be akin to identifying from the consumer's package of beef, what animal or at least which ranch the beef originated and the trail from ranch to slaughter. Hey FYI- did you guys know cattle go wild over grapefruit? I give culls to them from time to time and they smile from ear to ear.</p><p></p><p>> The EU does't refuse to take US</p><p>> beef because it's not traceable.</p><p>> They refuse to take our beef</p><p>> because they claim growth implants</p><p>> are unsafe. That's not true; the</p><p>> WTO time after time said our beef</p><p>> is safe and refusing to take US</p><p>> beef is an illegal trade barrier.</p><p>> Because of that, the US impose</p><p>> tarriffs on some EU products to</p><p>> make up the difference.</p><p></p><p>> Having said that, we're going to</p><p>> have mandatory ID in place pretty</p><p>> quick. And we should have had it</p><p>> in place years ago.</p><p></p><p>> BTW, about 600 people die in the</p><p>> US every year from eating fresh</p><p>> fruits and vegetables. No food is</p><p>> totally safe unluess you</p><p>> raise/grow it and process it</p><p>> yourself. Here's a link:</p><p></p><p>></p><p>> <A HREF="http://www.apsnet.org/online/feature/safety/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.apsnet.org/online/feature/safety/</A></p><p>> And here's a sample comment:</p><p></p><p>> "Unlike other commodities</p><p>> such as beef and chicken that are</p><p>> rigorously inspected, methods to</p><p>> detect pathogens on fresh produce</p><p>> are less advanced, and the</p><p>> sporadic nature of most</p><p>> contamination further limits the</p><p>> effectiveness of testing.</p><p>> Bacterial pathogens may</p><p>> contaminate fruits and vegetables</p><p>> at any point throughout the</p><p>> production system. Potential</p><p>> pre-harvest sources of</p><p>> contamination include soil, feces,</p><p>> irrigation water, water used to</p><p>> apply fungicides and insecticides,</p><p>> dust, insects, inadequately</p><p>> composted manure, wild and</p><p>> domestic animals, and human</p><p>> handling (3)."</p><p></p><p>> Also, when you hear that Organic</p><p>> meat is safer, be aware that they</p><p>> found BSE infected animals on more</p><p>> than 30 certified organic farms in</p><p>> Great Britain during their big BSE</p><p>> crisis a few years ago. And that</p><p>> the first BSE case in France was</p><p>> found at a facility that only</p><p>> processes organic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 12772"] Frankie that's a good bit of factual information. Thanks for bringing that to light. My intention was not to deem fruits and vegetables totally safe, but rather to discuss traceability. Trust me, my heart lies wholly in beef. With citrus from Florida (at least the plants we market for), I could take a trip to Europe or Asia or anywhere else for that matter, and provided the fruit was still in it's packaging, I could identify from a section of land where it came from. We are taking steps to narrow that down to a few trees. We are also trying to put traceability into each individual piece. I suppose that would be akin to identifying from the consumer's package of beef, what animal or at least which ranch the beef originated and the trail from ranch to slaughter. Hey FYI- did you guys know cattle go wild over grapefruit? I give culls to them from time to time and they smile from ear to ear. > The EU does't refuse to take US > beef because it's not traceable. > They refuse to take our beef > because they claim growth implants > are unsafe. That's not true; the > WTO time after time said our beef > is safe and refusing to take US > beef is an illegal trade barrier. > Because of that, the US impose > tarriffs on some EU products to > make up the difference. > Having said that, we're going to > have mandatory ID in place pretty > quick. And we should have had it > in place years ago. > BTW, about 600 people die in the > US every year from eating fresh > fruits and vegetables. No food is > totally safe unluess you > raise/grow it and process it > yourself. Here's a link: > > <A HREF="http://www.apsnet.org/online/feature/safety/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.apsnet.org/online/feature/safety/</A> > And here's a sample comment: > "Unlike other commodities > such as beef and chicken that are > rigorously inspected, methods to > detect pathogens on fresh produce > are less advanced, and the > sporadic nature of most > contamination further limits the > effectiveness of testing. > Bacterial pathogens may > contaminate fruits and vegetables > at any point throughout the > production system. Potential > pre-harvest sources of > contamination include soil, feces, > irrigation water, water used to > apply fungicides and insecticides, > dust, insects, inadequately > composted manure, wild and > domestic animals, and human > handling (3)." > Also, when you hear that Organic > meat is safer, be aware that they > found BSE infected animals on more > than 30 certified organic farms in > Great Britain during their big BSE > crisis a few years ago. And that > the first BSE case in France was > found at a facility that only > processes organic. [/QUOTE]
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