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<blockquote data-quote="Keren" data-source="post: 677093" data-attributes="member: 3195"><p>gertfan, lots of us dont live on the same property as the cows. Lots of us check 3 x per day. If you observe a cow beginning to calf on the first check, she must have a calf by the second check, do not leave her till the 3rd check, glove up and figure out what is going wrong and you might be in time to save the cow and calf then. when a cow is dry from too long trying, you can pump lube into them. breech births are fairly easy to correct with a bit of grunt and knowledge. If they absolutely dont fit through the pelvis (large calf, small cow) they can be cut up with embryotome wire and delivered in pieces, to save the cow, or a caesarian can be done if the calf is valuable and still alive. If your vet cant do this, or doesnt give you these options, then yes, I would be finding a new vet or learning how to do it myself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Keren, post: 677093, member: 3195"] gertfan, lots of us dont live on the same property as the cows. Lots of us check 3 x per day. If you observe a cow beginning to calf on the first check, she must have a calf by the second check, do not leave her till the 3rd check, glove up and figure out what is going wrong and you might be in time to save the cow and calf then. when a cow is dry from too long trying, you can pump lube into them. breech births are fairly easy to correct with a bit of grunt and knowledge. If they absolutely dont fit through the pelvis (large calf, small cow) they can be cut up with embryotome wire and delivered in pieces, to save the cow, or a caesarian can be done if the calf is valuable and still alive. If your vet cant do this, or doesnt give you these options, then yes, I would be finding a new vet or learning how to do it myself. [/QUOTE]
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