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<blockquote data-quote="UG" data-source="post: 394800" data-attributes="member: 714"><p>cowboyup216,</p><p></p><p>Sorry to offend you. </p><p></p><p>I find it very, very hard to believe that poor dispositions have been bred out of all the Salers. Herefords, Gelbviehs, and Shorthorns are some of the calmest cattle around, but you'll even find a nut case in those breeds from time to time.</p><p></p><p>Now you indicated that I put out mis information about Salers. Well, I feel that my information was very accurate. However, I find that your statement "braunviehs are hard calvers like any beef breed that was originally a dairy breed" is very misleading. </p><p></p><p>First of all, as Phillse pointed out, Braunvieh were not originally a dairy breed. Secondly, I have been around the cattle business for nearly 40 years and don't recall anyone every making the statement that all breeds that were originally dairy breeds are hard calving. That may be true for some breeds but not all (by the way Saler milk is well known in France for making cheese...I guess based on your criteria, Salers would be one of those hard calving dairy breeds). Finally, like in nearly all breeds, there are bulls the both the Saler and Braunvieh breeds that are easy calving and those that are not. </p><p></p><p>I also feel that your statement "you wont have any calving problems" fairly bold. I doubt that there is a breed anywhere on this earth that won't give a producer a calving problem from time to time. Maybe this statement is a bit misleading too.</p><p></p><p>Sorry we don't agree on this one cowboyup216.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UG, post: 394800, member: 714"] cowboyup216, Sorry to offend you. I find it very, very hard to believe that poor dispositions have been bred out of all the Salers. Herefords, Gelbviehs, and Shorthorns are some of the calmest cattle around, but you'll even find a nut case in those breeds from time to time. Now you indicated that I put out mis information about Salers. Well, I feel that my information was very accurate. However, I find that your statement "braunviehs are hard calvers like any beef breed that was originally a dairy breed" is very misleading. First of all, as Phillse pointed out, Braunvieh were not originally a dairy breed. Secondly, I have been around the cattle business for nearly 40 years and don't recall anyone every making the statement that all breeds that were originally dairy breeds are hard calving. That may be true for some breeds but not all (by the way Saler milk is well known in France for making cheese...I guess based on your criteria, Salers would be one of those hard calving dairy breeds). Finally, like in nearly all breeds, there are bulls the both the Saler and Braunvieh breeds that are easy calving and those that are not. I also feel that your statement "you wont have any calving problems" fairly bold. I doubt that there is a breed anywhere on this earth that won't give a producer a calving problem from time to time. Maybe this statement is a bit misleading too. Sorry we don't agree on this one cowboyup216. [/QUOTE]
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