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<blockquote data-quote="Katpau" data-source="post: 1752097" data-attributes="member: 9933"><p>I like the looks of your young bull and I would use him on heifers with confidence. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't keep a heifer I thought might have trouble calving to the average Angus bull. I consider a calving ease (CE) EPD of 9 to be very good. It puts him in the top 30% of the Angus breed, and Angus are already considered a good choice for heifers. The reason he does not have more EPD numbers in his pedigree is because that was all the data turned into AAA for this animal by the breeder. When you look near the left hand bottom corner of that pedigree you see the notation "Phenotypic traits: CE, BW, WW, YW". Those are the traits for which data was turned into AAA. His EPD numbers are based on this information combined with the average EPD's of his parents. His Dad was a 10 for CE and his Mom a 2, so I believe he was a very small calf that arrived without help. He received an EPD estimate much closer to his Dad's CE than his Mom's.</p><p></p><p>If you would like to get numbers for all of his other traits and add a DNA based assessment for CE, you could send in a DNA sample and $37 to AAA to receive that information. I do this for all of my registered breeding animals. I find it fascinating to compare those numbers with my actual data. For the most part I would have to say the DNA based numbers and hard data will line up. There are always some outliers of course, usually in the older pedigrees. I suppose there was never enough DNA collected on these animals so that correct connections between the DNA and physical traits could be traced. Your animal has a modern pedigree, so I think the DNA analysis would be quite accurate for many traits. In my opinion, some of the newer EPD's still need more data turned in, and I never really trust an EPD, like docility or feet, that are based on peoples opinions. At least not until the data has a high degree of accuracy and is based on data submissions from multiple parties not affiliated with the bulls ownership.</p><p></p><p>You may also notice below the Phenotypic traits that there are some more numbers. They tell you dates transferred and AAA ID numbers for all of the owners of the bull since his registration. For example he was first registered in your name on May 16 of 2022.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Katpau, post: 1752097, member: 9933"] I like the looks of your young bull and I would use him on heifers with confidence. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't keep a heifer I thought might have trouble calving to the average Angus bull. I consider a calving ease (CE) EPD of 9 to be very good. It puts him in the top 30% of the Angus breed, and Angus are already considered a good choice for heifers. The reason he does not have more EPD numbers in his pedigree is because that was all the data turned into AAA for this animal by the breeder. When you look near the left hand bottom corner of that pedigree you see the notation "Phenotypic traits: CE, BW, WW, YW". Those are the traits for which data was turned into AAA. His EPD numbers are based on this information combined with the average EPD's of his parents. His Dad was a 10 for CE and his Mom a 2, so I believe he was a very small calf that arrived without help. He received an EPD estimate much closer to his Dad's CE than his Mom's. If you would like to get numbers for all of his other traits and add a DNA based assessment for CE, you could send in a DNA sample and $37 to AAA to receive that information. I do this for all of my registered breeding animals. I find it fascinating to compare those numbers with my actual data. For the most part I would have to say the DNA based numbers and hard data will line up. There are always some outliers of course, usually in the older pedigrees. I suppose there was never enough DNA collected on these animals so that correct connections between the DNA and physical traits could be traced. Your animal has a modern pedigree, so I think the DNA analysis would be quite accurate for many traits. In my opinion, some of the newer EPD's still need more data turned in, and I never really trust an EPD, like docility or feet, that are based on peoples opinions. At least not until the data has a high degree of accuracy and is based on data submissions from multiple parties not affiliated with the bulls ownership. You may also notice below the Phenotypic traits that there are some more numbers. They tell you dates transferred and AAA ID numbers for all of the owners of the bull since his registration. For example he was first registered in your name on May 16 of 2022. [/QUOTE]
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