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<blockquote data-quote="inyati13" data-source="post: 986469" data-attributes="member: 17767"><p>Thanks, Bez. Your first point, what I see and feel- I have squeezed the quadrant that is not producing milk, I have seen mastitis- she does not currently have mastitis. I am as sure as anyone can be of anything on that. Read my message again, I did. I mentioned mastitis because the vet's assistant said past cases of mastitis can cause a quadrant to go blind. I am trying to be sure that I help you help me here. It could well be due to a past injury, infection, etc.</p><p></p><p>Your second point, right on, today the calf was sucking that quadrant as hard as the other three. But although I am on your side that sticking a cannula into the orifice of the teat and inserting it into the duct work is not what you want to be doing (I know some microbiology, it just cannot be done sterile, in fact not even in the best operating room in hospitals, microbes are just too evasive), I knew something was not right and I want to get her in the chute and find the problem and solve it. I promise you, that teat has no open milk duct. I pushed hard and that is not what I wanted to be doing. I rotated the cannula and pushed it in several different directions. It would not go in. And know that I milked her till she kicked and nothing came out. I am very skeptical that the calf is going to "suck out the problem". But I sure hope it does.</p><p></p><p>I will cover 3, 4 and 5 like this, first, I agree that there is risk of sticking anything into the teat. I have the SS cannula with the two orifices and I keep them soaking in isopropyl alcohol. I cleaned her teats with a wipe. But I got to be honest. It is impossible to really maintain a sterile environment when it is 16 degrees and your outside dealing with a non-sterile subject. I dropped the cannula once, picked it up wiped it on a terry cloth and used it. I hate to admit that! Now the good part. This calf is hoping around like a bunny rabbit, tomorrow he may be dead but right now he ranks as one of the most energetic calves I have had. Mom is fine. They are in a nice clean environment with lots of clean hay for bedding. I am not worried as long as he is doing well. Again, you are right, he is working on the blind quadrant. I trust you on that one as seeing is believing.</p><p></p><p>The only thing that concerns me is to make sure he is getting enough out of the other teats. As someone mentioned above, 2 or 3 teats is maybe all she needs. For a heifer (she is a skunk back which makes me partial to her), she had her first calf unassisted. He is a nice bouncing bady calf and both seem fine. If the calf gets enough milk, her residence will continue to be the best place any cow ever had.</p><p>Thanks again Bez.</p><p>Life is good and the best right back to you from the heart, my friend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="inyati13, post: 986469, member: 17767"] Thanks, Bez. Your first point, what I see and feel- I have squeezed the quadrant that is not producing milk, I have seen mastitis- she does not currently have mastitis. I am as sure as anyone can be of anything on that. Read my message again, I did. I mentioned mastitis because the vet's assistant said past cases of mastitis can cause a quadrant to go blind. I am trying to be sure that I help you help me here. It could well be due to a past injury, infection, etc. Your second point, right on, today the calf was sucking that quadrant as hard as the other three. But although I am on your side that sticking a cannula into the orifice of the teat and inserting it into the duct work is not what you want to be doing (I know some microbiology, it just cannot be done sterile, in fact not even in the best operating room in hospitals, microbes are just too evasive), I knew something was not right and I want to get her in the chute and find the problem and solve it. I promise you, that teat has no open milk duct. I pushed hard and that is not what I wanted to be doing. I rotated the cannula and pushed it in several different directions. It would not go in. And know that I milked her till she kicked and nothing came out. I am very skeptical that the calf is going to "suck out the problem". But I sure hope it does. I will cover 3, 4 and 5 like this, first, I agree that there is risk of sticking anything into the teat. I have the SS cannula with the two orifices and I keep them soaking in isopropyl alcohol. I cleaned her teats with a wipe. But I got to be honest. It is impossible to really maintain a sterile environment when it is 16 degrees and your outside dealing with a non-sterile subject. I dropped the cannula once, picked it up wiped it on a terry cloth and used it. I hate to admit that! Now the good part. This calf is hoping around like a bunny rabbit, tomorrow he may be dead but right now he ranks as one of the most energetic calves I have had. Mom is fine. They are in a nice clean environment with lots of clean hay for bedding. I am not worried as long as he is doing well. Again, you are right, he is working on the blind quadrant. I trust you on that one as seeing is believing. The only thing that concerns me is to make sure he is getting enough out of the other teats. As someone mentioned above, 2 or 3 teats is maybe all she needs. For a heifer (she is a skunk back which makes me partial to her), she had her first calf unassisted. He is a nice bouncing bady calf and both seem fine. If the calf gets enough milk, her residence will continue to be the best place any cow ever had. Thanks again Bez. Life is good and the best right back to you from the heart, my friend. [/QUOTE]
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