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<blockquote data-quote="greenwillowhereford II" data-source="post: 491259" data-attributes="member: 7439"><p>Is the 1200-1250# finished feeder not still the animal that literally "fits the box" for the packer? If this is still true, then as a producer, not only do I want to provide the packer with decent yield and quality grade genetics, but in the package that fits the box. It seems to me that there is only so much frame score that has any decent thickness and guts and still fits the box. Last time I checked, the 1200# cow and the 2000# bull were about the best combo for accomplishing the 1200# finished steer. Again, with any decent capacity, there is a limit to the frame score at those weights. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that there is no place for any variation. What works for you works for you. But it seems that there would be only so far in either direction that you could vary without missing the target. </p><p></p><p>Having said all this, my cows probably run 1,300#. I culled one last year because she came up open after 2 and a half or 3 months with the bull the spring/summer before. She was a coming 4 year old, and I fed her moderately for 90 days-not full feed, just enough to give the flavor etc. She weighed over 1400 at the butcher, and has been possibly the best beef I've ever had any time any where. Some day I plan to post a pic of some of the cuts of meat. It is at least deep into Choice territory. Talk about some enormous sirloins and T-bones! But that's great for my family of five. I've got a teen age son now, and between the two of us and a younger son....the ladies have to take what's left! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite10" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" /> No really, they get first choice...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="greenwillowhereford II, post: 491259, member: 7439"] Is the 1200-1250# finished feeder not still the animal that literally "fits the box" for the packer? If this is still true, then as a producer, not only do I want to provide the packer with decent yield and quality grade genetics, but in the package that fits the box. It seems to me that there is only so much frame score that has any decent thickness and guts and still fits the box. Last time I checked, the 1200# cow and the 2000# bull were about the best combo for accomplishing the 1200# finished steer. Again, with any decent capacity, there is a limit to the frame score at those weights. I'm not saying that there is no place for any variation. What works for you works for you. But it seems that there would be only so far in either direction that you could vary without missing the target. Having said all this, my cows probably run 1,300#. I culled one last year because she came up open after 2 and a half or 3 months with the bull the spring/summer before. She was a coming 4 year old, and I fed her moderately for 90 days-not full feed, just enough to give the flavor etc. She weighed over 1400 at the butcher, and has been possibly the best beef I've ever had any time any where. Some day I plan to post a pic of some of the cuts of meat. It is at least deep into Choice territory. Talk about some enormous sirloins and T-bones! But that's great for my family of five. I've got a teen age son now, and between the two of us and a younger son....the ladies have to take what's left! :oops: No really, they get first choice... [/QUOTE]
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