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<blockquote data-quote="lithuanian farmer" data-source="post: 1815037" data-attributes="member: 19683"><p>Whoah, what a discusion.</p><p>I appreciate all opinions. Not many people do what I do even in my own country. Farmers are far from modern here, but I'm trying to learn things from other european farmers, where their farming goal is similar to mine, which is to breed profitable animals with lots of meat for our market. Many farmers here go toward different direction and breed for small birth weights, milk or size, leaving out muscularity. I breed for better beefness, easier calving in females and trying to fix acouple other things in the process. We have improved maternal calving ease quite a lot I think, but also an average birth weight has increased by ~10lbs. To increase muscularity and to keep calving ease is a very delicate thing, but I'm taking the risk to a certain point and try to see what works and what can bring trouble. I'm not sure if I will ever go past 75% with blues. It needs very good females and suitable bulls for that, which would take alot of time. Time will tell. </p><p>P.S. I'm going to bring here 10 heifers of another double muscled, but abit less extreme breed in November. </p><p>P.P.S. Yes, to my knowledge, I'm a female <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😅" title="Grinning face with sweat :sweat_smile:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f605.png" data-shortname=":sweat_smile:" /> Adding photo for a proof... Aaand it might be abit more memorable for all <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😅" title="Grinning face with sweat :sweat_smile:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f605.png" data-shortname=":sweat_smile:" /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]33709[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>P.P.P.S. Got a real nice shot of the heifer today, so will just add here <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😄" title="Grinning face with smiling eyes :smile:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f604.png" data-shortname=":smile:" /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]33710[/ATTACH]</p><p>For anyone wondering, my first option for her first calf would be an easy calving Salers. To get a good calf and without much issues. Will I ever use a blue on her? Not sure. If she proves me that she is more than capable calving calves at 110lbs bw and I will have a proven blue bull, then it's possible, but not earlier than third calf. If she shows that she has lower capabilities than her dam, then salers, limousin or easy calving parthenaise will be max what she will ever get. I do not want sections even if I'm capable to perform it. </p><p>And to add to all that, blues probably is the breed, which caused the least amount of trouble at calving, mostly because that such bulls are used on selected proven females. Charolais, Limousin and Angus would be in the lead for most assistance required at birth due to size.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lithuanian farmer, post: 1815037, member: 19683"] Whoah, what a discusion. I appreciate all opinions. Not many people do what I do even in my own country. Farmers are far from modern here, but I'm trying to learn things from other european farmers, where their farming goal is similar to mine, which is to breed profitable animals with lots of meat for our market. Many farmers here go toward different direction and breed for small birth weights, milk or size, leaving out muscularity. I breed for better beefness, easier calving in females and trying to fix acouple other things in the process. We have improved maternal calving ease quite a lot I think, but also an average birth weight has increased by ~10lbs. To increase muscularity and to keep calving ease is a very delicate thing, but I'm taking the risk to a certain point and try to see what works and what can bring trouble. I'm not sure if I will ever go past 75% with blues. It needs very good females and suitable bulls for that, which would take alot of time. Time will tell. P.S. I'm going to bring here 10 heifers of another double muscled, but abit less extreme breed in November. P.P.S. Yes, to my knowledge, I'm a female 😅 Adding photo for a proof... Aaand it might be abit more memorable for all 😅 [ATTACH type="full"]33709[/ATTACH] P.P.P.S. Got a real nice shot of the heifer today, so will just add here 😄 [ATTACH type="full"]33710[/ATTACH] For anyone wondering, my first option for her first calf would be an easy calving Salers. To get a good calf and without much issues. Will I ever use a blue on her? Not sure. If she proves me that she is more than capable calving calves at 110lbs bw and I will have a proven blue bull, then it's possible, but not earlier than third calf. If she shows that she has lower capabilities than her dam, then salers, limousin or easy calving parthenaise will be max what she will ever get. I do not want sections even if I'm capable to perform it. And to add to all that, blues probably is the breed, which caused the least amount of trouble at calving, mostly because that such bulls are used on selected proven females. Charolais, Limousin and Angus would be in the lead for most assistance required at birth due to size. [/QUOTE]
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