Menu
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Forums
Cattle Boards
Breeds Board
Beef Production - USA vs Australia - Ringside Seats!
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Help Support CattleToday:
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Keren" data-source="post: 685373" data-attributes="member: 3195"><p>I've been trying to avoid this thread but I cant anymore. </p><p></p><p>Firstly, Bez I get what you are saying, and what the breeder of this bull is saying as well, that this guy has merit in the fact that he is a whole lot easier keeping, and grows better on pasture, than his drop mates. </p><p></p><p>But - if you look long and hard enough, you can find bulls who have that quality whilst also being more structurally sound than this bull. </p><p></p><p>I'm heading out to see the cattle today - and I will show you a few young bulls who display masculinity and plenty of muscle at only 8 - 9 months old. So far their feeding program has been mum's milk and grass (mum's werent receiving any supplement). They are now on the show team so I concede that they have been started on grain, however it has only been a week on grain and it still gives you an indication of their growth beforehand on pasture alone. </p><p></p><p>Now about the Aust vs US beef production. I dont pretend to know much about your beef production. What I do know, I learned from the coach of the meat judging team from the University of Illinois (sp? apologies) who I was fortunate enough to meet a few years ago when the team came across to Australia to compete in our Australasian Intercollegiate Meat Judging competition (and flogged our butts btw). </p><p></p><p>The beef you produce for domestic consumption is higher quality than ours; I dont deny that at all. Your domestic beef is highly highly marbed and grain fed. In contrast the domestic beef produced in Australia has no marbling, is very lean, and predominantly grass fed. Our domestic consumers will not buy marbled meat, so unfortunately that is what we have to produce. </p><p></p><p>But a few things were stated about our export beef which was incorrect. As 3waycross's article said, we are the #2 world beef exporter, second only to Brazil. About 2/3 of the beef produced in Australia is exported. Our biggest market is the JapOx, which is HIGHLY MARBLED, LONG GRAIN FED WAGYU BEEF. I worked in one of these feedlots, trust me that beef is marbled, and super high quality. As Aussie said earlier, we own a huge part of the JapOx market since the US BSE scare forced you guys away several years ago. The health status of Australia (so easy to keep since we are an island) is one of the reasons we do so well on the export market. Our other export markets are Korea (lower marbled, grass fed beef) and US (same as Korea) and a small amount goes to EU. I was gonna find some figures and graphs for you but my computer is throwing a wobbly. Maybe this afternoon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Keren, post: 685373, member: 3195"] I've been trying to avoid this thread but I cant anymore. Firstly, Bez I get what you are saying, and what the breeder of this bull is saying as well, that this guy has merit in the fact that he is a whole lot easier keeping, and grows better on pasture, than his drop mates. But - if you look long and hard enough, you can find bulls who have that quality whilst also being more structurally sound than this bull. I'm heading out to see the cattle today - and I will show you a few young bulls who display masculinity and plenty of muscle at only 8 - 9 months old. So far their feeding program has been mum's milk and grass (mum's werent receiving any supplement). They are now on the show team so I concede that they have been started on grain, however it has only been a week on grain and it still gives you an indication of their growth beforehand on pasture alone. Now about the Aust vs US beef production. I dont pretend to know much about your beef production. What I do know, I learned from the coach of the meat judging team from the University of Illinois (sp? apologies) who I was fortunate enough to meet a few years ago when the team came across to Australia to compete in our Australasian Intercollegiate Meat Judging competition (and flogged our butts btw). The beef you produce for domestic consumption is higher quality than ours; I dont deny that at all. Your domestic beef is highly highly marbed and grain fed. In contrast the domestic beef produced in Australia has no marbling, is very lean, and predominantly grass fed. Our domestic consumers will not buy marbled meat, so unfortunately that is what we have to produce. But a few things were stated about our export beef which was incorrect. As 3waycross's article said, we are the #2 world beef exporter, second only to Brazil. About 2/3 of the beef produced in Australia is exported. Our biggest market is the JapOx, which is HIGHLY MARBLED, LONG GRAIN FED WAGYU BEEF. I worked in one of these feedlots, trust me that beef is marbled, and super high quality. As Aussie said earlier, we own a huge part of the JapOx market since the US BSE scare forced you guys away several years ago. The health status of Australia (so easy to keep since we are an island) is one of the reasons we do so well on the export market. Our other export markets are Korea (lower marbled, grass fed beef) and US (same as Korea) and a small amount goes to EU. I was gonna find some figures and graphs for you but my computer is throwing a wobbly. Maybe this afternoon. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Cattle Boards
Breeds Board
Beef Production - USA vs Australia - Ringside Seats!
Top