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<blockquote data-quote="ShuterSunset" data-source="post: 653237" data-attributes="member: 7662"><p>Show steer, I know Christina pretty well. We were actually on the same judging team for a while. She sure knows her sheep and I am sure she is great with the kids. I'm sure you will get along great.</p><p></p><p>I agree with you both, Bez and show steer up. It is pretty tough to judge shows and give a good competent set of reasons and to really be a good steer judge takes some knowledge of what it takes on the cow side to make those great steers. I have been doing a little bit of judging on the county fair circuit and I understand that if the steers are relatively close in their physiological make-up, that you want to give the nod to the kid that has spent the time with the calf and worked with the hair daily to get that extra advantage.</p><p></p><p>I'll admit that some of these big time show steers do have a lot of hair and that it can be used to hide some faults, but I also know that most judges at those big time shows can see through most of that hair, know most of the tricks themselves, and use steers that would compete pretty favorably even if it was a slick show. Not saying that they always get them that way, but most of the good judges I have seen at the big deals are that way. </p><p></p><p>I can see both sides of the hair/grooming issue. I grew up in the show ring and it has taught me a lot of good lessons about life and cattle. I plan to raise my kids that way too if they want. I understand how much work and dedication it takes to feed them right and get their hair to work right. We also feed out all of our own cattle that don't make seedstock and sell fats at the sale barn and freezer beef to our neighbors so our cattle have to perform there as well. I get the fact that they have to work in the real world. </p><p></p><p>I think if people understood better how to bring those show cattle back down off of feed properly and get them aclimated to being a real world cow again, many of these fancy show cattle that some people write off as never making a cow would fit in a bit better. Some of them may not ever though, as a lot depends upon the environment that they were raised in and the environment they are dumped into as cows. Just my two thoughts......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShuterSunset, post: 653237, member: 7662"] Show steer, I know Christina pretty well. We were actually on the same judging team for a while. She sure knows her sheep and I am sure she is great with the kids. I'm sure you will get along great. I agree with you both, Bez and show steer up. It is pretty tough to judge shows and give a good competent set of reasons and to really be a good steer judge takes some knowledge of what it takes on the cow side to make those great steers. I have been doing a little bit of judging on the county fair circuit and I understand that if the steers are relatively close in their physiological make-up, that you want to give the nod to the kid that has spent the time with the calf and worked with the hair daily to get that extra advantage. I'll admit that some of these big time show steers do have a lot of hair and that it can be used to hide some faults, but I also know that most judges at those big time shows can see through most of that hair, know most of the tricks themselves, and use steers that would compete pretty favorably even if it was a slick show. Not saying that they always get them that way, but most of the good judges I have seen at the big deals are that way. I can see both sides of the hair/grooming issue. I grew up in the show ring and it has taught me a lot of good lessons about life and cattle. I plan to raise my kids that way too if they want. I understand how much work and dedication it takes to feed them right and get their hair to work right. We also feed out all of our own cattle that don't make seedstock and sell fats at the sale barn and freezer beef to our neighbors so our cattle have to perform there as well. I get the fact that they have to work in the real world. I think if people understood better how to bring those show cattle back down off of feed properly and get them aclimated to being a real world cow again, many of these fancy show cattle that some people write off as never making a cow would fit in a bit better. Some of them may not ever though, as a lot depends upon the environment that they were raised in and the environment they are dumped into as cows. Just my two thoughts...... [/QUOTE]
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