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<blockquote data-quote="R V" data-source="post: 927736" data-attributes="member: 18595"><p>I don't know about superior, but I would say simpler. What is wrong with solid colored longhorns? Spots can kill you, but you want a live calf that is easy on the heifer. I tried Jersey and they calved well, but the gentle bull got really mean as he got older and this kid is learning. A longhorn bull won't cost much nor eat much and he shouldn't much if any when he sales it after breeding the first year. I would go with a fine boned bull for the first calf or two and then muscle and production with later. Personally, I just purchased 3 young Mashona bulls to use on my heifers. The breed is polled, solid black or solid red, very easy calving, heat tolerant with very good carcass data.</p><p></p><p>It is more important to me to have a cow produce for a longer period of time. 8 live calves at weaning that don't work the heifer as hard so that she can rebreed isn't a bad thing. Each or at least more of the heifers rebreeding is worth more than 6-7 larger calves at weaning or even 8 larger calves at weaning with 1-3 open heifers. My heifers that raise big calves rarely breed back 3 years in a row. I would save the extra heterosis/terminal cross until they are 4-5 years old. He's shouldn't be planning on paying them off with the first calf anyway. We don't have enough grass here (and I don't think he does there) to support the extra production in heifers without supplementing a lot and supplementing that much will probably kill his profits. It sounds like this is a learning experiment and I wish I would kept it simpler when I started. It has taken me a while to realize the value of simplicity.... Success usually breeds success.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="R V, post: 927736, member: 18595"] I don't know about superior, but I would say simpler. What is wrong with solid colored longhorns? Spots can kill you, but you want a live calf that is easy on the heifer. I tried Jersey and they calved well, but the gentle bull got really mean as he got older and this kid is learning. A longhorn bull won't cost much nor eat much and he shouldn't much if any when he sales it after breeding the first year. I would go with a fine boned bull for the first calf or two and then muscle and production with later. Personally, I just purchased 3 young Mashona bulls to use on my heifers. The breed is polled, solid black or solid red, very easy calving, heat tolerant with very good carcass data. It is more important to me to have a cow produce for a longer period of time. 8 live calves at weaning that don't work the heifer as hard so that she can rebreed isn't a bad thing. Each or at least more of the heifers rebreeding is worth more than 6-7 larger calves at weaning or even 8 larger calves at weaning with 1-3 open heifers. My heifers that raise big calves rarely breed back 3 years in a row. I would save the extra heterosis/terminal cross until they are 4-5 years old. He's shouldn't be planning on paying them off with the first calf anyway. We don't have enough grass here (and I don't think he does there) to support the extra production in heifers without supplementing a lot and supplementing that much will probably kill his profits. It sounds like this is a learning experiment and I wish I would kept it simpler when I started. It has taken me a while to realize the value of simplicity.... Success usually breeds success. [/QUOTE]
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