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<blockquote data-quote="Nesikep" data-source="post: 660852" data-attributes="member: 9096"><p>well, with Rosie, she's always well tempered, I never have to put her in a chute to give her shots, she's never had her hoofs trimmed (and they are pasture cows), and I get a calf every year... sure, there are always higher standards to breed by, and if you're a seedstock producer, i completely encourage it, but if you're a beef operation, you don't get rewarded for a steer that comes from a cow with an "A" udder, neither for a heifer... none of Rosies kin have the best toplines either, they all have a dip around the tail, but when she delivers a 100 b calf, her daughter's first calf was 110, and her sister had a 145 lb calf, all without help, that's what will pay at the end of the season for a beef producer. her sister (my "horse") is also the family dairy cow who gets fed nothing but hay, and I get over 1 quart of milk from 1 quarter every milking, and considering the calf sucks every 4 hours or so, you can figure he gets 15 quarts a day or something.. little surprise he gains weight.. and she pays for her keep just giving us our daily milk. </p><p>I guess I'll turn into a broken record here, echoing what many have already said, yes, good udders are wonderful, but that alone doesn't make a good cow, and until you have a herd started, you can't cull for all defects at once or you'd have nothing left... we have culled for prolapses, we don't have any of them anymore... we've culled for BAD udders, we don't have any of them left, we culled for bad hoofs, and don't have them anymore either, so now that those are done, we can refine more and more what we look for</p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess it was to be forseen that the topic of teats would be a hotly contested item <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nesikep, post: 660852, member: 9096"] well, with Rosie, she's always well tempered, I never have to put her in a chute to give her shots, she's never had her hoofs trimmed (and they are pasture cows), and I get a calf every year... sure, there are always higher standards to breed by, and if you're a seedstock producer, i completely encourage it, but if you're a beef operation, you don't get rewarded for a steer that comes from a cow with an "A" udder, neither for a heifer... none of Rosies kin have the best toplines either, they all have a dip around the tail, but when she delivers a 100 b calf, her daughter's first calf was 110, and her sister had a 145 lb calf, all without help, that's what will pay at the end of the season for a beef producer. her sister (my "horse") is also the family dairy cow who gets fed nothing but hay, and I get over 1 quart of milk from 1 quarter every milking, and considering the calf sucks every 4 hours or so, you can figure he gets 15 quarts a day or something.. little surprise he gains weight.. and she pays for her keep just giving us our daily milk. I guess I'll turn into a broken record here, echoing what many have already said, yes, good udders are wonderful, but that alone doesn't make a good cow, and until you have a herd started, you can't cull for all defects at once or you'd have nothing left... we have culled for prolapses, we don't have any of them anymore... we've culled for BAD udders, we don't have any of them left, we culled for bad hoofs, and don't have them anymore either, so now that those are done, we can refine more and more what we look for I guess it was to be forseen that the topic of teats would be a hotly contested item :P [/QUOTE]
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