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<blockquote data-quote="LauraleesFarm" data-source="post: 1760514" data-attributes="member: 14261"><p>I raise commercial Brahman cattle and their crosses.</p><p></p><p>Typically run 2 herds these days, but was running 4 herds prior to 2020. I keep my heifers and do not want to buy replacements at the sale barn. For the heifers, I have put Hereford and also Angus bulls on them, and some years Brahman bulls. There are many pros and cons for high percentage and purebreds! I will attempt to summarize:</p><p></p><p>CONS:</p><p>NOT for beginners--these cattle are very athletic and if mishandled can get PO'd quickly</p><p>Require tall stout working pens</p><p>Breeding stock cost more for startup</p><p>Heifers WILL NOT get pregnant until they weigh a good 900-1000#</p><p>Lots of Brahman will be horned</p><p>Cows WILL NOT breed back if thin or stressed</p><p>Maternal traits can be pretty strong, better be able to read a cow's mood.</p><p>Bad genetics exist--attitude, big teats, bad feet, and bad eyelids having to be tacked up due to excess skin folds.</p><p>Not very cold tolerant and will need supplementation.</p><p>Must be handled differently to pen--you lead them, don't chase them. Flight zone is larger. Keep them at a walk and don't rush them. It has to be their idea sometimes. Once they are PO'd just give it up and try again another day.</p><p>Male offspring will take a hit at the salebarn.</p><p>Brahman bulls are not usually good on heifers. Calves can get big. Purebred x purebred is an acceptable risk. But Brahman bull over British cross heifers is a bad idea.</p><p></p><p>PROS:</p><p>Insect resistance is real.</p><p>Maternal traits--the ultimate cross for ANY other breed, and the resulting females will be superior to both of the parents in productivity and efficiency.</p><p>They know who belongs and who does not. Will chase strangers, dogs, any intruder.</p><p>They will survive in hot humid conditions where other cattle will suffer.</p><p>They live and produce longer--into their teens and sometimes 20's. They have long hard teeth and they don't lose them. You can sometimes haul a teenaged cow to the salebarn and she will mouth as a 6 year old.</p><p>A good Brahman bull, and good Brahman semen, is available affordably.</p><p>Easier to sell privately than other cattle.</p><p>I have never had a Brahman cow prolapse or have eye cancer. I have never seen any of my Brahman standing in the pond, EVER.</p><p>These cattle will trust their owner, they are intelligent, and they know exactly who is safe. A stranger can't just walk among them or handle them without a reaction. If a truck and trailer pulls up to the corral, they take off in the other direction. This makes them slightly more theft-proof. </p><p></p><p>Once you have a set of well uddered, good natured Brahman females, you can move forward. I would not assemble them from the salebarn as a rule. But if you know what you are looking at, there are sometimes good ones at the barn, just have to know what you are buying and be willing to cull hard if they aren't good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LauraleesFarm, post: 1760514, member: 14261"] I raise commercial Brahman cattle and their crosses. Typically run 2 herds these days, but was running 4 herds prior to 2020. I keep my heifers and do not want to buy replacements at the sale barn. For the heifers, I have put Hereford and also Angus bulls on them, and some years Brahman bulls. There are many pros and cons for high percentage and purebreds! I will attempt to summarize: CONS: NOT for beginners--these cattle are very athletic and if mishandled can get PO'd quickly Require tall stout working pens Breeding stock cost more for startup Heifers WILL NOT get pregnant until they weigh a good 900-1000# Lots of Brahman will be horned Cows WILL NOT breed back if thin or stressed Maternal traits can be pretty strong, better be able to read a cow's mood. Bad genetics exist--attitude, big teats, bad feet, and bad eyelids having to be tacked up due to excess skin folds. Not very cold tolerant and will need supplementation. Must be handled differently to pen--you lead them, don't chase them. Flight zone is larger. Keep them at a walk and don't rush them. It has to be their idea sometimes. Once they are PO'd just give it up and try again another day. Male offspring will take a hit at the salebarn. Brahman bulls are not usually good on heifers. Calves can get big. Purebred x purebred is an acceptable risk. But Brahman bull over British cross heifers is a bad idea. PROS: Insect resistance is real. Maternal traits--the ultimate cross for ANY other breed, and the resulting females will be superior to both of the parents in productivity and efficiency. They know who belongs and who does not. Will chase strangers, dogs, any intruder. They will survive in hot humid conditions where other cattle will suffer. They live and produce longer--into their teens and sometimes 20's. They have long hard teeth and they don't lose them. You can sometimes haul a teenaged cow to the salebarn and she will mouth as a 6 year old. A good Brahman bull, and good Brahman semen, is available affordably. Easier to sell privately than other cattle. I have never had a Brahman cow prolapse or have eye cancer. I have never seen any of my Brahman standing in the pond, EVER. These cattle will trust their owner, they are intelligent, and they know exactly who is safe. A stranger can't just walk among them or handle them without a reaction. If a truck and trailer pulls up to the corral, they take off in the other direction. This makes them slightly more theft-proof. Once you have a set of well uddered, good natured Brahman females, you can move forward. I would not assemble them from the salebarn as a rule. But if you know what you are looking at, there are sometimes good ones at the barn, just have to know what you are buying and be willing to cull hard if they aren't good. [/QUOTE]
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