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<blockquote data-quote="RDFF" data-source="post: 1652629" data-attributes="member: 39018"><p>Well, I'm still working on figuring out what the potential is for grazing days, and for $$$ vs. cropping. I just got back into cattle in 2019 on the ground with the "converted crop ground" photos. The one of the drills is on 2020 spring conversion ground, and the spreader is in the soybeans from this year obviously. Haven't gotten the stocking density high enough to figure out what the carrying capacity potential can be yet. </p><p></p><p>I converted about 70 acres in 2019, started back into cattle by doing custom grazing. Did that again this year too, and will be next year too, and probably for some years to come. My "C/c guy" and I are on the same page and so far get along really well, great relationship where we both understand that we need each other, and it has to work for both of us, or it won't work for either of us. We can tell each other what we need, and get understanding... both ways. Anyway, from what I've seen so far, I think I could probably get to about 1.3 acres per C/c pair... we'll see. On 4-500# stockers, I think I could probably be at about 1.7 head/acre and carry them for the summer. </p><p></p><p>I think next year will be the real test. I'll probably be pasturing about 250 acres of converted ground, with only about 80 of that being first year seeding (frost seeding next spring). It seems to yield quite a bit more in the second year (the photos posted previously)....</p><p></p><p>Piece of advice... MAKE SURE YOU COVER EVERYTHING WITH YOUR DRILL!!! I've still got stripes on my 2019 pasture that's nothing but weeds. Where I had rye because I didn't miss any, it's absolutely beautiful! Guess my poor man's "OUGHT TO STEER" needs some work! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I'd much rather dump out extra seed than end up with a bare spot! Last year on my fall planting of cover crops on my row crop ground, I had one drill run empty and I went all the way across the field before I caught it. SOLID waterhemp this spring! Where I had the rye.... nothing! I'll include a photo... And what I noticed when I got down off the tractor was, wherever there WAS a rye plant in that patch of waterhemp, there was a circle around that rye plant about the size of a silver dollar with no waterhemp.... allelopathy I assume. That's one of the reasons that I decided to broadcast rye into my beans this fall.... better seed distribution (not just rye in rows 7 1/2" apart), and an earlier start on the rye. And I upped the seeding rate from about 70#, to a total of about 115# (70# broadcast in early September, followed by the NT drill after harvest with another 45#).</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1092[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDFF, post: 1652629, member: 39018"] Well, I'm still working on figuring out what the potential is for grazing days, and for $$$ vs. cropping. I just got back into cattle in 2019 on the ground with the "converted crop ground" photos. The one of the drills is on 2020 spring conversion ground, and the spreader is in the soybeans from this year obviously. Haven't gotten the stocking density high enough to figure out what the carrying capacity potential can be yet. I converted about 70 acres in 2019, started back into cattle by doing custom grazing. Did that again this year too, and will be next year too, and probably for some years to come. My "C/c guy" and I are on the same page and so far get along really well, great relationship where we both understand that we need each other, and it has to work for both of us, or it won't work for either of us. We can tell each other what we need, and get understanding... both ways. Anyway, from what I've seen so far, I think I could probably get to about 1.3 acres per C/c pair... we'll see. On 4-500# stockers, I think I could probably be at about 1.7 head/acre and carry them for the summer. I think next year will be the real test. I'll probably be pasturing about 250 acres of converted ground, with only about 80 of that being first year seeding (frost seeding next spring). It seems to yield quite a bit more in the second year (the photos posted previously).... Piece of advice... MAKE SURE YOU COVER EVERYTHING WITH YOUR DRILL!!! I've still got stripes on my 2019 pasture that's nothing but weeds. Where I had rye because I didn't miss any, it's absolutely beautiful! Guess my poor man's "OUGHT TO STEER" needs some work! :-) I'd much rather dump out extra seed than end up with a bare spot! Last year on my fall planting of cover crops on my row crop ground, I had one drill run empty and I went all the way across the field before I caught it. SOLID waterhemp this spring! Where I had the rye.... nothing! I'll include a photo... And what I noticed when I got down off the tractor was, wherever there WAS a rye plant in that patch of waterhemp, there was a circle around that rye plant about the size of a silver dollar with no waterhemp.... allelopathy I assume. That's one of the reasons that I decided to broadcast rye into my beans this fall.... better seed distribution (not just rye in rows 7 1/2" apart), and an earlier start on the rye. And I upped the seeding rate from about 70#, to a total of about 115# (70# broadcast in early September, followed by the NT drill after harvest with another 45#). [ATTACH type="full"]1092[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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