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<blockquote data-quote="hraz" data-source="post: 304893" data-attributes="member: 5154"><p>Alice, you are right. I was spiraling down quickly. Thanks for pointing it out. </p><p></p><p>Dun, I drive all over the place in the state and the forests just do not seem that big. But, having now googled my state I see the forests are quite large. Thanks. I live in very dry low-lying desert in south central AZ. I will do well to remember the world is bigger than here. Try googling the growth taking place in this state.</p><p></p><p>Auctionboy, the state agencies here, prior to the new legislation, could not tell the hog farmer how to house the hog. The legislation is not broad by any stretch of the imagination but is very specific. It reletes only to pregnent sows and calves and how much space they have when housed. That is it. </p><p></p><p>I know that there are a lot of bad, stupid laws on the books. But that does not mean that all laws are bad or that we should refrain from doing the right thing to avoid potential laws later. The legislation that passed here is good. It will help solve a problem that needs solving. </p><p></p><p>I have asked several times if people on this board thought that it was wrong to house the sows in a gestation crate. I commend those that answered. The biggest arguments have come from people who will not answer. They only rant about all of the laws they do not like and all of the potential laws they will not like. </p><p></p><p>Is animal abuse ok? There are laws in place that are designed to help stop animal hoarders and rescue organizations that help take those animals. Most humane societies and animal control agencies will help people care for their animals if they find themselves in a bad situation. People need to speak up when they see a problem. With most hoarding cases the officers find out that other people knew about the problem long before and just never alerted anyone. Many people whose animals are starving have not asked for help, Or they are unwilling to let go of the animals they can no longer take care of. Part of loving an animal is caring for it. Sometimes hard choices have to be made. But the laws and the assistance are out there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hraz, post: 304893, member: 5154"] Alice, you are right. I was spiraling down quickly. Thanks for pointing it out. Dun, I drive all over the place in the state and the forests just do not seem that big. But, having now googled my state I see the forests are quite large. Thanks. I live in very dry low-lying desert in south central AZ. I will do well to remember the world is bigger than here. Try googling the growth taking place in this state. Auctionboy, the state agencies here, prior to the new legislation, could not tell the hog farmer how to house the hog. The legislation is not broad by any stretch of the imagination but is very specific. It reletes only to pregnent sows and calves and how much space they have when housed. That is it. I know that there are a lot of bad, stupid laws on the books. But that does not mean that all laws are bad or that we should refrain from doing the right thing to avoid potential laws later. The legislation that passed here is good. It will help solve a problem that needs solving. I have asked several times if people on this board thought that it was wrong to house the sows in a gestation crate. I commend those that answered. The biggest arguments have come from people who will not answer. They only rant about all of the laws they do not like and all of the potential laws they will not like. Is animal abuse ok? There are laws in place that are designed to help stop animal hoarders and rescue organizations that help take those animals. Most humane societies and animal control agencies will help people care for their animals if they find themselves in a bad situation. People need to speak up when they see a problem. With most hoarding cases the officers find out that other people knew about the problem long before and just never alerted anyone. Many people whose animals are starving have not asked for help, Or they are unwilling to let go of the animals they can no longer take care of. Part of loving an animal is caring for it. Sometimes hard choices have to be made. But the laws and the assistance are out there. [/QUOTE]
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