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<blockquote data-quote="Katpau" data-source="post: 1615798" data-attributes="member: 9933"><p>You can call anything you want Angus, but that won't make it Angus. People often call anything black, or mostly black, Angus. The rule about no white from the navel forward pertains to registered cattle. Registered cattle will have a pedigree that traces back to all registered Angus cattle. There is no ability to "breed up" to Angus, like there is in many breeds, such as Simmental. The original rules for Angus cattle in America excluded the red cattle. The Red Angus Association was later formed to register these cattle. In other countries, such as Canada, The Angus registry includes both colors. Red calves are still born to Black Angus cattle, since the recessive trait can stay hidden for many generations, only showing up 25% of the time when two red carriers are mated. Those calves can't be registered as "Angus" but are welcome in the Red Angus Registry.</p><p></p><p>Now Certified Angus Beef is something entirely different. It was originally conceived with the idea to get people using Black Angus bulls, and that is why the requirement for 51% solid black hide was included. Black is dominant to most colors and when CAB was first created most other breeds were some other color. To qualify for CAB you needed to add Angus. But CAB is also about quality and it doesn't matter how much of the hide is Black or even if the animal is a registered Black Angus. If the beef does not meet the quality requirements, it's not labeled as CAB. At least 51% black hided was chosen as the breaking point for qualification and a black white face can qualify, as long as it meets all other credentials for quality.</p><p></p><p>CAB has been so successful, that many other breeds, such as Simmental, have introduced Angus genetics into their herds. So like Jeanne pointed out, it is entirely possible to qualify for the CAB label with an animal that is Simmental or from another breed. The criteria do specifically exclude animals that appear to be of dairy influence or Bos Indicus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Katpau, post: 1615798, member: 9933"] You can call anything you want Angus, but that won't make it Angus. People often call anything black, or mostly black, Angus. The rule about no white from the navel forward pertains to registered cattle. Registered cattle will have a pedigree that traces back to all registered Angus cattle. There is no ability to "breed up" to Angus, like there is in many breeds, such as Simmental. The original rules for Angus cattle in America excluded the red cattle. The Red Angus Association was later formed to register these cattle. In other countries, such as Canada, The Angus registry includes both colors. Red calves are still born to Black Angus cattle, since the recessive trait can stay hidden for many generations, only showing up 25% of the time when two red carriers are mated. Those calves can't be registered as "Angus" but are welcome in the Red Angus Registry. Now Certified Angus Beef is something entirely different. It was originally conceived with the idea to get people using Black Angus bulls, and that is why the requirement for 51% solid black hide was included. Black is dominant to most colors and when CAB was first created most other breeds were some other color. To qualify for CAB you needed to add Angus. But CAB is also about quality and it doesn't matter how much of the hide is Black or even if the animal is a registered Black Angus. If the beef does not meet the quality requirements, it's not labeled as CAB. At least 51% black hided was chosen as the breaking point for qualification and a black white face can qualify, as long as it meets all other credentials for quality. CAB has been so successful, that many other breeds, such as Simmental, have introduced Angus genetics into their herds. So like Jeanne pointed out, it is entirely possible to qualify for the CAB label with an animal that is Simmental or from another breed. The criteria do specifically exclude animals that appear to be of dairy influence or Bos Indicus. [/QUOTE]
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