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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 381542" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>I would stick with Ag. I hate to be a pessimist; BUT I struggled like all heck to get the planted pines on my place thinned. Pulpwood wasn't bringing diddly last year and is worse this year. The problem is the environmental whack jobs. It is just about impossible too site a new paper mill in the states and it is hard to keep the old plants in compliance with all the regs and they stay in court for supposed violation of the draconian environmental laws. The smart money is moving too Brazil. The big timber companies are slowly and methodically selling down their high priced U.S. assetts and are moving south. International Paper has 417 acres near me they have been begging somebody to buy for years now and recently have been accepting bids on 13,000 acres in Dallas County.</p><p><a href="http://www.landsofalabama.com/Alabama/index.cfm?Detail=&INV_ID=65059" target="_blank">http://www.landsofalabama.com/Alabama/i ... V_ID=65059</a></p><p>We can still sell lumber trees for good money; BUT it takes two good thinnings to get the lumber and the margins for landowner, logger, and paper company are all slim.</p><p>Accord to this link, 2/3s of forestors work for government....</p><p><a href="http://diversityworking.com/career/Agriculture__Forestry_and_Fishing/Conservation_Scientists_and_Foresters/Forester.html" target="_blank">http://diversityworking.com/career/Agri ... ester.html</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fishery biz WAS hopping ten years ago; but NOW they are facing heavy competition from China and Vietnam. I talked our local grocery store manager into switching from Chinese to Alabama catfish at the same price; but Wal-Mart, Sam's, and the big dogs pretty much prefer the Chinese. Vietnam also has a lot more variety of fish and shrimp in their ponds. You add in exhorbitant fuel prices (and they burn a lot of fuel aerating those ponds for those fish) and high grain prices (about all of which has to come from Iowa and Kansas) and I question how many $50,000 kids they need to hire right out of school. Talk to the people actually with the companies for their longterm job outlook. They should know more than me or you.....if they will talk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 381542, member: 2095"] I would stick with Ag. I hate to be a pessimist; BUT I struggled like all heck to get the planted pines on my place thinned. Pulpwood wasn't bringing diddly last year and is worse this year. The problem is the environmental whack jobs. It is just about impossible too site a new paper mill in the states and it is hard to keep the old plants in compliance with all the regs and they stay in court for supposed violation of the draconian environmental laws. The smart money is moving too Brazil. The big timber companies are slowly and methodically selling down their high priced U.S. assetts and are moving south. International Paper has 417 acres near me they have been begging somebody to buy for years now and recently have been accepting bids on 13,000 acres in Dallas County. [url=http://www.landsofalabama.com/Alabama/index.cfm?Detail=&INV_ID=65059]http://www.landsofalabama.com/Alabama/i ... V_ID=65059[/url] We can still sell lumber trees for good money; BUT it takes two good thinnings to get the lumber and the margins for landowner, logger, and paper company are all slim. Accord to this link, 2/3s of forestors work for government.... [url=http://diversityworking.com/career/Agriculture__Forestry_and_Fishing/Conservation_Scientists_and_Foresters/Forester.html]http://diversityworking.com/career/Agri ... ester.html[/url] The fishery biz WAS hopping ten years ago; but NOW they are facing heavy competition from China and Vietnam. I talked our local grocery store manager into switching from Chinese to Alabama catfish at the same price; but Wal-Mart, Sam's, and the big dogs pretty much prefer the Chinese. Vietnam also has a lot more variety of fish and shrimp in their ponds. You add in exhorbitant fuel prices (and they burn a lot of fuel aerating those ponds for those fish) and high grain prices (about all of which has to come from Iowa and Kansas) and I question how many $50,000 kids they need to hire right out of school. Talk to the people actually with the companies for their longterm job outlook. They should know more than me or you.....if they will talk. [/QUOTE]
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